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Ebay: Managed Payments...no more Paypal

Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by visolo, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    I expect they will pass it on. I noticed this change recently. I purchased a couple of records from a seller on eBay the email I received from PayPal said I had paid eBay which I thought odd. I logged into my account and sure enough it said the same thing and it also did not specify what it was I actually bought. Before this change my PayPal account would show the item. According to PayPal, eBay are no longer sharing that information with them.

    Anyway, I noticed a message on the transaction stating I had till April 2021 to file a claim.

    Not sure if they made this change for Canadians yet. I removed some items at the start of this pandemic but intend to re-list them in the new year. I don't really want to deal with this eBay managed payment system.
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
    Greater Vancouver
    :agree: Especially when Paypal works just fine. It's 180 day window works perfectly for these slower than a slug delivery times we're living in. It makes buyers very comfortable not having to be concerned about lengthy delivery times and still be able to recoup any possible losses.
     
  3. GBailey9099

    GBailey9099 Well-Known Member

    Well bye eBay.
     
  4. Farmer Mike

    Farmer Mike Forum Resident

    Also, it would be smart to do it at a different institution than your main account. If you are in the negative due a return or dispute, it won't get your main account locked up or used to cover the negative amount.
     
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  5. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denver
    I get Paypal reversals every month from overseas. You don't pay the registered tracking fee you will be pounded by the liars. I love dealing with them, hard. 75% collapse "Ummmm, I I I just found it".
     
  6. visolo

    visolo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    I don't do international shipping...too many scammers.
     
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  7. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denver
    It is loaded with Paypal Reversal scammers. All over. I had a Bulgaria this week. He got worried and said "the post office just found it".....that's only after I emailed him away from eBay, hard. Don't even waste your time with overseas....it is $16 per order added out of your wallet to stop the reversals. Try selling a CD with $31 postage.
     
  8. visolo

    visolo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    What did you tell him ? To make him find his package.
     
  9. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

    Location:
    Toronto
    Hey, this is Chee you're dealing with here! He's the Terminator and Predator wrapped in one badass dude no one in the world would ever dare mess with! From overseas, his mere words make people pee their pants and necessitate therapy to get over.

    I can only imagine a face-to-face encounter would split the atoms of the foolish poor soul's body out of sheer terror. After all, Chee is the biggest badass who ever existed, didn't you know?

    Oh, I'm sorry. I was going by his self-image. In the real world where most people live, nobody is impressed by his self-aggrandizing chest-inflating fictional anecdotes he dreams up every week on this board. Those fisherman stories of his are good for a laugh mainly because of how he's a one-trick pony who never lets up but not much else.
     
  10. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denver
    I gave him some Rocky Mountain thunder. Like Chubb crunch from the outside on Mahomes soon. Strat just sits and takes it like Sonny Liston blasts 1965 on liars n crooks. What would you do if you saw a$600 eBay reversal end up on the guy's Discogs site in Spain? Mahomes.....yer doomed soon. Crunch! Alabama rookie Spider-Man TD's. Fictional? Oh please.....rock n roll crooks on eBay. Anybody know where there is aSteve Hoffman interview with the greatest pieces of work he's done and why?
     
  11. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

    Location:
    Toronto
    Lay off the sauce, son.
     
  12. visolo

    visolo Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Oh ok...not sure what all that meant. I just don't ship to international scammers....I mean buyers. Sometimes they message me if I'll make an exception and ship to them. I tell them "No." So they leave me alone now.
     
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  13. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    City of Angels
    I am wondering if sellers will now get the full information on their buyers from ebay. It was for years difficult or impossible to get a ebay buyer's email address. All a seller would get is their shipping. Apparently, ebay and PP had a deal in place where sellers were left in the dark as to not be about to contact buyers and work with them outside of ebay. And now that their marriage is over and divorce is final, I am wondering if the email address is showing up on the transaction page?

    Everyone knows that the real way to online success using ebay is to get the first transaction on ebay, make it go well and then harvest the buyers over to your own store, direct them with both a coupon inside the order, a shipping box with printed store name and logo on it as well as an email directly to them that they are welcome to visit your store which has more things and at your best prices.

    Ebay knew about this cross-marketing the smart people were doing and went in and made an effort to stop it.

    I set up a store at Ecrater and started loading it up with records and was doing the cross-marketing, directing buyers to my store. But I realized that selling CDs and LPs was a great thing to do and would be in my future, but I did not want my career to be that. I wanted to go out and work in the working world and meet all those wonderful people. Record sales would be a p/t gig, and something to do when and if I retired. So my Ecrater store sits there with a few hundred items but is given no real attention or promotion by me.

    Now with cv-19 raging out of control and I am working much less, I am doing Discogs, and thinking about ebay. But besides not liking them as a corporation, it's just hard and time-consuming to sell there.

    See this is why I don't like this company.
    You all know about ebay employees arrested for harassment and stalking right? Yes eBay's employees were currently employed when the power that they thought they held went way to their heads, and they sent a pig and cockroaches in the mail intimidate. NO REALLY!!!

    Six former eBay employees charged in a bizarre cyberstalking scheme

    Former eBay security director arrested for harassing journalist with live cockroaches

    EBay Employees Charged With Harassing Couple — Tried To Send A ‘Fetal Pig’ In The Post
     
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  14. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denver
    At one time you could leave negatives to buyers and warn people about crooks......long gone. $31 postage to stop a CD reversal overseas. Think anybody will buy set sale or auction? Nope. Avoid overseas auctions....they win by $1-$5 usually over Patsy in Kansas City....your safe winner.
     
  15. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

    Location:
    Toronto
    Terrible argument. A few people with a screw loose doesn't mean it reflects what the company stands for. In fact, in one of your articles, the following appears;

    "eBay says it was notified by law enforcement of suspicious behavior in August 2019 and began its own investigation. By September 2019, it terminated all involved employees, including its former chief communications officer."

    That's a month and they were all fired. I'd say they did right.
     
  16. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    City of Angels
    No, that was only one of the later crimes against their critics and one of the really bad ones. There are more, many more, and they have been dragged into court many times. In fact many of the eBay rules have been struck down as illegal in many countries.

    But anyway, of course the company issued a statement about the firings and that this was a few bad apples - and we’re doing our own investigation. What do you expect them to say. Their COO who was not involved was fired too, I saw that.

    There is no way to sugar cost this, its a bad culture they created. And it came back to bite them in the ass. And it’s not behind them yet, some guilty pleas, but this chapter is not over.

    I sold there for many years, I have two active accounts with great feedback and hundreds - or over one thousand transactions.

    I do miss the old Power Sellers Unite Forums where one could read about all of the scandals and shady things going on. They thought that they were god, and in fact they were god if one put all of your eggs into the eBay basket. Thank god for St. Eleswhere.
     
  17. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denver
    eBay.....all for the buyers and a big rubbah hose for the sellers. Screaming chimp noise soundbite.
     

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