Elvis at the International Hotel Las Vegas 1969 Box Set

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  1. Revelator

    Revelator Disputatious cartoon animal.

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    The very helpful information from the Legacy Recordings website gives a good breakdown of exactly is "new" on the live box-set. The answer is...not very much:

    Disc 1 – August 21, 1969. Midnight show

    Unreleased:
    01) Blue Suede Shoes*

    Released on Viva Las Vegas:
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) Memories
    09) Mystery Train/Tiger Man

    Unreleased:
    10) Monologue

    Released on Viva Las Vegas:
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    12) Runaway
    13) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    14) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    15) Introductions including “Happy Birthday” sung to James Burton)
    16) In The Ghetto
    17) Suspicious Minds
    18) What’d I Say
    19) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 2 – August 22, 1969. Dinner show
    (Setlist identical to Disc 1)
    Released on FTD Elvis in Person at the International Hotel


    Disc 3 – August 22, 1969. Midnight show
    Unreleased:
    1) Blue Suede Shoes
    2) I Got A Woman
    3) All Shook Up

    Released on Collectors Gold:
    4) Love Me Tender
    5) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel

    Unreleased:
    6) Heartbreak Hotel
    7) Hound Dog
    8) Memories

    Released on Today, Tomorrow, & Forever:
    9) My Babe (Willie Dixon)

    Released on Collectors Gold:
    10) Mystery Train/Tiger Man

    Unreleased:
    11) Monologue

    Released on Today, Tomorrow, & Forever:
    12) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    13) Funny How Time Slips Away
    14) Runaway

    Unreleased:
    15) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    16) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    17) Introductions
    18) In The Ghetto
    19) Suspicious Minds

    Released on Today, Tomorrow, & Forever:
    20) What’d I Say (Ray Charles)

    Unreleased:
    21) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 4 – August 23, 1969. Dinner show
    (Setlist identical to Disc 1)
    Released on 2019 2-LP set The International Hotel, unreleased on CD


    Disc 5 – August 23, 1969. Midnight show
    Released on FTD Elvis At the International:
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) Memories
    09) Mystery Train/Tiger Man
    10) Monologue
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    12) Runaway
    13) Reconsider Baby
    14) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    15) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    16) Introductions
    17) In The Ghetto
    18) Suspicious Minds
    19) What’d I Say
    20) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 6 – August 24, 1969. Dinner show
    Released on Live in Las Vegas:
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) I Can’t Stop Loving You
    09) Johnny B. Goode
    10) Monologue
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    12) Runaway
    13) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    14 Yesterday/Hey Jude
    15) Introductions
    16) In The Ghetto
    17) Suspicious Minds
    18) What’d I Say
    19) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 7- August 24, 1969. Midnight show
    Released on FTD Writing For the King:
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog

    Unreleased:
    08) I Can’t Stop Loving You

    Released on From Memphis to Vegas/From Vegas to Memphis:
    09) Johnny B. Goode

    Unreleased:
    10) Monologue

    Released on Platinum: A Life in Music
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do

    Unreleased:
    12) Runaway

    Released on From Memphis to Vegas/From Vegas to Memphis:
    13) Are You Lonesome Tonight? (Roy Turk/Lou Handman)

    Released on Platinum: A Life in Music
    14) Words

    Released on FTD Writing For the King:
    15) Yesterday/Hey Jude

    Unreleased:
    16) Introductions

    Released on Elvis Aron Presley:
    17) In The Ghetto (Scott “Mac” Davis)

    Released on FTD Writing For the King:
    18) Suspicious Minds
    19) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 8 – August 25, 1969. Dinner show
    Released on Collectors Gold:
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman

    Unreleased:
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog

    Released on Collectors Gold:
    08) Memories

    Unreleased:
    09) Mystery Train/Tiger Man
    10) Monologue
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do

    Released on Collectors Gold:
    12) Funny How Time Slips Away (Willie Nelson)

    Released on On Stage:
    13) Runaway

    Released on FTD Writing For the King:
    14) Words

    Released on On Stage:
    15) Yesterday/Hey Jude

    Unreleased:
    16) Introductions

    Released on From Memphis to Vegas/From Vegas to Memphis:
    17) In The Ghetto

    Unreleased:
    18) Suspicious Minds
    19) What’d I Say
    20) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 9 – August 25, Midnight show
    Completely released on FTD Hot August Night
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) I Can’t Stop Loving You
    09) My Babe
    10) Mystery Train/Tiger Man
    11) Monologue
    12) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    13) Runaway
    14) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    15) Words
    16) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    17) Introductions
    18) In The Ghetto
    19) Suspicious Minds
    20) What’d I Say
    21) Can’t Help Falling In Love


    Disc 10 – August 26, 1969. Dinner show
    Completely released on FTD Live in Vegas
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) Memories
    09) My Babe
    10) Mystery Train/Tiger Man
    11) Monologue
    12) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    13) Runaway
    14) Inherit The Wind
    15) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    16) Introductions
    17) In The Ghetto
    18) Suspicious Minds
    19) Can’t Help Falling In Love

    Disc 11 – August 26, 1969. Midnight show
    Completely released on FTD All Shook Up
    01) Blue Suede Shoes
    02) I Got A Woman
    03) All Shook Up
    04) Love Me Tender
    05) Jailhouse Rock/Don’t Be Cruel
    06) Heartbreak Hotel
    07) Hound Dog
    08) I Can’t Stop Loving You
    09) Mystery Train/Tiger Man
    10) Monologue
    11) Baby, What You Want Me To Do
    12) Runaway Max Crook/Del Shannon)
    13) Are You Lonesome Tonight?
    14) Rubberneckin’
    15) Yesterday/Hey Jude
    16) Introductions
    17) In The Ghetto
    18) This Is The Story
    19) Suspicious Minds
    20) Can’t Help Falling In Love

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    After having reviewed all this, I'm not as excited as I used to be. I already have all the officially released material from '69, aside from this year's LP, and and the majority of it doesn't need upgrading (especially not the FTDs).
    But I will be interested in hearing disc 6, since the first release of that show was horribly mixed and all but eliminated Larry Muhoberac. I'm trusting the new mix is superior. The Collectors Gold material will undoubtedly sound better too.
    This box set makes it clear that the '69 recordings have been picked pretty clean. During the past two decades Ernst Jorgensen has done an excellent job of releasing what presumably were the best concerts and cherry-picking the rest. What wasn't released was probably left the behind for good reasons, perhaps because Elvis was so consistently good during these shows that there isn't a lot of variety between them--the quality is great throughout, so if you've heard two or three shows you've heard them all.
     
  2. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Forum Resident

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    Have you read the liner notes from various Legacy releases over the past several years (Elvis Country, Elvis At Stax, Today, Way Down In The Jungle Room)? Attention to detail and accuracy are not priorities.
     
  3. This was posted on another site by a different poster than me, so full credit to that person:

    Long Black Limousine (Takes 1,2,3 & 5) - Officially Unreleased
    Wearin' That Loved On Look (Takes 1, 2, 3 & 5) - Officially Unreleased, except for take 3
    You'll Think Of Me (Takes 11 & 14) - Take 11 is totally unreleased, not even bootlegged.
    You'll Think of Me (Takes 19, 20 & 22) - Totally unreleased, not even bootlegged
    Don't Cry Daddy (Take 3) - Unreleased if it's the Instrumental master.
    In The Ghetto (Takes 5-10) officially unreleased
    True Love Travels On A Gravel Road (Take 3) - Officially unreleased
     
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  4. Dr. Luther's Assistant

    Dr. Luther's Assistant dancing about architecture

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    Crap. That's not an insignificant amount of material. I'm almost glad that this isn't being issued on CD. I've got all three FTDs from these sessions -- but were there a box set collecting everything in one package, chronologically, I'm guessing that at some point I would buckle, and purchase that puppy.

    So -- basically they're saving me from myself. And I thank them.
     
  5. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I follow your reasoning but I don't agree with it.

    Not everyone have the various CD's and special edition vinyl sets.
    Some of them are scarce and pricey. It is a mistake to assume that
    everybody already has everything that's been released.

    Put the complete sessions into a CD box-set for customers who don't
    have it or want to have it in chronological order. Additionally, it would
    be nice to have the American Sound sessions all in one tidy set. I for
    one would value that and pay well for it.

    The customers who already have the sessions on various CD's can
    just purchase the tracks they don't have via download | torrent or
    whatever.
     
  6. pobbard

    pobbard The CD is a pretty good format (ducks)

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  7. Matthew

    Matthew Forum Resident

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    Pre-ordered the Graceland Exclusive edition of the upcoming vinyl release, that looks pretty neat.

    As for the CD set, I'll wait until a better price point comes along and then decide. My days of being a completist for this stuff are behind me, I don't need every live show under the sun.
     
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  8. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Forum Resident

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    Well, don’t be surprised if FTD one day issues this entire session chronologically. Not a guarantee by any means, but a possibility now that the label is venturing into complete sessions releases.
     
  9. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Forum Resident

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    Probably Matt Ross-Spang. Hold onto those Anesini engineered FTD releases!
     
  10. Matthew

    Matthew Forum Resident

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    Matt Ross-Spang has done all the Vegas shows for this set, unknown on the American Sound music (which to be honest, unless it gets a physical release I'm not really interested in - the FTD Classic Albums cover a lot of ground).
     
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  11. Wingsfan2012

    Wingsfan2012 Forum Resident

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    I would be very interested (I like the set list) if they picked "the best" of the shows and put out a 1 CD version...………….
     
  12. Matthew

    Matthew Forum Resident

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    For retail, personally I'd have combined the two concepts and done something for 1969 similar to what Young Man With The Big Beat did for 1956.

    As nice as it is for the deep fan to get all 11 Vegas shows in one hit, consistently mixed and mastered it really just becomes a shelf archive rather than an "album project" that you pull out to listen to.
     
  13. Mr. H

    Mr. H Forum Resident

    FTD should give us the exclusive tracks on one disc for the American Sound stuff.
     
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  14. Dr. Luther's Assistant

    Dr. Luther's Assistant dancing about architecture

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    San Francisco
    I've changed my mind. :shrug:

    All of the American Sound sessions should be contained within one encompassing collection.

    I love the three FTD issues of this material, but the layout just doesn't work for me. You've got different alternate takes of the songs scattered all over the place. I'd much rather have everything in one place. Chronologically.

    Do it right. They can have my money. Again.
     
  15. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    Or stick them on FTD "Let's Be Friends".

    :agree:
     
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  16. pobbard

    pobbard The CD is a pretty good format (ducks)

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    Ah, too bad. Does anyone have a list of complete releases from this set of shows that Anesini mixed? Discogs is no help. I know of Hot August Night and Live in Vegas - are there others?
     
  17. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I agree except for the last sentence.
    I do pull shows out and listen to them.
    I enjoy listening to Elvis concerts, one after another often.
    The 1969 thru 1972 concerts are my favorite period.

    Likewise, I enjoy listening to studio sessions including the progression
    of takes. I like to follow Elvis' creative process. 1969 thru 1972 are the
    most interesting period.

    Putting all the professionally recorded concerts into yearly collections
    and the studio sessions into well-organized box-sets is precisely what
    I want to listen to. Right now they're scattered all over the place. It
    would be nice to have them in one neat and tidy box-set.

    But a download only is just ... well, it's disappointing is all I can say.
     
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  18. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Forum Resident

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    Disc two of In Person.
     
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  19. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    This.
     
  20. windfall

    windfall Forum Resident

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    This feels to me like an industry experiment. Put out a digital only release and a CD release of material from the same era, with both sets having a limited amount of previously unreleased material. Compare the sales and take a position on whether to wind down CD production.

    I would rather have this the other way round. Complete studio sessions, chronologically, with detailed liner notes, on CD in a nice box. We’re talking here about some of the most important sessions in the history of recorded music. Live shows (where presumably the fidelity of the recordings is lower quality) as a download.

    I never got into FTD but have bought all the legacy reissues and the big boxes along the way. I can’t justify £80 on a set of CDs with so little variation. I may buy the digital release of American Sound.
     
  21. windfall

    windfall Forum Resident

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    And the more I look into this, the more baffling I find it that they hardly talk about the studio sessions at all in the press release. Can’t even be bothered to provide a track listing.
     
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  22. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    This was done on the 1970 album release In Person at the International.
    The Legacy 2-CD edition is cheap and highly recommended, but the FTD 2-CD
    edition is the absolute best. So it's been done. But few people are satisfied by it.
     
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  23. RSteven

    RSteven Forum Resident

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    This is exactly the same thing I was thinking. I hope this box set sells like hot cakes, because I think you are right on the money here. This is no coincidence to me that they are throwing these two very important collections out there in two distinct formats. I have already been speculating that the Elvis Live 69 box set could be one of the last deluxe CD box sets we see on Elvis. I really hope the sales are much higher than they anticipate, so it does not become the last deluxe CD box set we get on Elvis.
     
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  24. Pianoman99

    Pianoman99 Forum Resident

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    There is such a box:
    The Complete Elvis Presley Masters - Wikipedia
     
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  25. windfall

    windfall Forum Resident

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