Elvis Costello & The Imposters new album: The Boy Named If

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  1. wino14

    wino14 Forum Resident

    Edenton, NC
    Just sprung for the vinyl from Amazon
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  2. csnfan

    csnfan Forum Resident

    Had to read this several times - Elvis did a tribute to you? Who are you? Then it came into focus...
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  3. Michael Macrone

    Michael Macrone Forum Resident

    San Francisco, CA
  4. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Forum Resident

    Cohoes, NY USA
    First-play reaction: I love it. It doesn’t sound like what the reviewers described, however. Not to me. Except for the part about it being excellent. It’s not all fiery. It’s not really a “return to form.” Can’t wait to get the vinyl in my hands tomorrow. Well, later today.
  5. urasam2

    urasam2 A Famous Potato

    The last time I saw him, this singing out of time completely ruined the concert for me. He did it on every song. Stop it, Elvis; it's not clever.
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  6. jacden

    jacden Forum Resident

    Just streamed the whole album. It's rocking and melodic in equal measure, and the chap sounds energized and inspired throughout. Makes me appreciate his talent anew actually. Peak level Costello in my book.
  7. dee

    dee Senior Member

    ft. lauderdale, fl
    I doubt fwiw, its intentional. It may be more trying to strike a precarious balance between the kind of tempos the songs require in a Rock context and the kind of style of singing he is most capable of delivering? It may also be something physical i.e. not being a young man in age anymore plus health. Over the years he has also become more of a 'crooner' - he always had some form of natural vibrato to his singing, but it didn't really affect his timing all that much, but add in more formal voice training, pitch exercises, and unless you do all that at a Rock kind of tempo, your voice is likely going to get 'heavier' and 'thicker' and while your timbre or tone will be more musical, it can come at a price such as 'elasticity' and speed.

    In some ways, its like 'bulking up' vs. 'trimming down'...

    And if one is carrying any extra physical challenges plus some age, then it's going to be even more of a challenge to sing on time and sound good doing so.
  8. INSW

    INSW Forum Resident

    Not sure if any professional reviews are referring to this as a return to form, but if so that's pretty dumb. It's another strong EC album, but I've found all his records beginning with When I Was Cruel are interchangeable. You could take any song off any of them and stick them on a different album and it wouldn't make any difference. That's not a knock - I would give all his records including this new one 4 stars.
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  9. cdollaz

    cdollaz Forum Resident

    Richmond, TX, USA
    This is a really strong album. Up there with When I Was Cruel and The Delivery Man among his output over the last 20 years.
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  10. nsm

    nsm Forum Resident

    The last 20 years have seen the biggest gap in terms of my enjoyment of his album output, from ones in my top 10 i.e When I Was Cruel, The Delivery Man & Look Now. To some that are right of the bottom for me like Wise Up Ghost.
    Mostly though they fall mid-way in my list of his albums. I've heard the 3 singles & liked them so i'm hoping the release is nearer or even in my top 10....I never thought any new release of his was gonna crack my top 10 & the along came Look Now which i love, so you never know !
    Waiting for the vinyl to drop to a sensible price....sick of paying £30 + then seeing it a few months later at half that price !

    My ranking of his LP's since 2002 that i own: ( Haven't heard The Boy Named If yet ) 1 -3 are top 10, 4 -7 mid table & 8 -10 near the bottom for me.

    1. When I Was Cruel
    2. Look Now
    3. The Delivery Man
    4. Momofuko
    5. National Ransom
    6. Hey Clockface
    7. River In Reverse
    8. Secret, Profane & Sugarcane
    9. North
    10. Wise Up Ghost
  11. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Forum Resident

    Cohoes, NY USA
    I’m hearing little flashes of sounds that remind me of Get Happy!!, Imperial Bedroom, Trust, Spike, Brutal Youth and This Year’s Model. I’ll bet others will pop out, too.
  12. Marry a Carrot

    Marry a Carrot Interesting blues gets a convincing reading.

    Los Angeles
    Really? "Button My Lip" could be on North? "That's Not the Part of Him You're Leaving" could be on Wise Up Ghost? "Broken Promise Land" could be on Secret, Profane & Sugarcane?
  13. INSW

    INSW Forum Resident

    Obviously North and Secret are genre productions, but if you take away those two, yes, even the songs on Wise Up Ghost sound interchangeable. Again, not a criticism, just the way I hear him.
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  14. Alien Ache

    Alien Ache Forum Resident

    Chicago, IL
    Wise Up Ghost is 10!? This confirms my belief that the album is severely underrated by EC fans. I listened to it the other day and it’s among his best of the last 20 years for sure.
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  15. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

    Lexington, KY
    It is unequivocally his best collaboration album in the last 15 years.
  16. draden1

    draden1 Forum Resident

    Des Moines, IA
    Just listened on Tidal and this album isn’t tired or meandering like so many older artists’ albums. There’s energy and great performances from both EC and the band, well done!

    I’m excited to hear feedback about the vinyl sound quality.
  17. urasam2

    urasam2 A Famous Potato

    I take all your points, but if he can sing rock numbers in time in the studio I don't see why he couldn't when playing live.
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  18. jmadad

    jmadad Forum Resident

    I was too depressed after seeing River in Reverse at 7 to make it to 10. Alas, to each their own.
  19. LandHorses

    LandHorses Forum Resident Thread Starter

    New Joisey
    I love River In Reverse.
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  20. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Forum Resident

    Cohoes, NY USA
    I need to play Wise Up Ghost a little more often. That show EC and The Roots played in NYC was great.
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  21. bRETT

    bRETT Senior Member

    Boston MA
    I don't like it, but I don't really like the Roots. And I love funk, I just don't think they're a good funk band.
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  22. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Forum Resident

    Cohoes, NY USA
    I may have misunderstood Alien Ache’s comment; so I changed mine—but not quickly enough.
  23. dee

    dee Senior Member

    ft. lauderdale, fl

    It is usually easier to do a specific vocal for a specific song in a controlled environement. Hence why it is easier to accomplish in the studio. Even though he records quickly, he can still rehearse the song a number of times to get it just right imo.
  24. dee

    dee Senior Member

    ft. lauderdale, fl
    I like your top 5 list though I am fond of North. For me,

    Look Now
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  25. jmxw

    jmxw Fab Forum Fan

    He's Lee Dorsey. Duh...

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