Essential Barry Diament masterings (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by darkmatter, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. hotsoup

    hotsoup Forum Resident

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    The Genesis catalog is the one of the worst to wrap your head around, as far as good/best CD mastering. What makes it difficult, IMO, is the low signal-to-noise ratio in most threads. I've settled on these, but I think they can be swapped out (for same or just barely different quality, IMHO) by one version or another.

    Trespass - DADC Austria, Collector's Edition Picture Discs
    Nursery Cryme - DADC Austria, Collector's Edition Picture Discs
    Foxtrot - DADC Austria, Collector's Edition Picture Discs (any of the above can be swapped for UK/Japan VC versions)
    Selling England by the Pound - Japan Virgin/Charisma VJCP-23117 (or black triangle? or UK VC?)
    The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Made in Japan (Sanyo), Virgin CGSCD 1
    A Trick of the Tail - old US Atco (Mastered by Barry Diament)
    Wind & Wuthering - Japan (Sanyo) for US
    Seconds Out - Made in the UK by Nimbus, Virgin GECD 2001
    ...And Then There Were Three... - Made in the UK by Nimbus, Virgin Charisma CDSCD 4010
    Duke - Made in Japan, Atlantic 16014-2 (Diament but not sure?)
    Abacab - Made in W. Germany by PolyGram, Virgin "Blue Face" CBRCD 102
    Genesis - Made in England (EMI Swindon) Virgin GENCD1 (I think US Atco is just as good)
    Invisible Touch - Japan Virgin/Charisma VJD-32011 (I think US Atco is just as good)

    Most of these have equivalent mastering on other presses, so I suggest looking at @Black Elk 's Genesis CD thread. He has them summarized very nicely.
     
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  2. Poxy Bowsy

    Poxy Bowsy Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much for your help! I'm going to use this valid information of yours.

    Take care.
     
  3. hotsoup

    hotsoup Forum Resident

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  4. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    For Invisible Touch, the Diament mastered original USA CD sounds great!
     
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  5. hotsoup

    hotsoup Forum Resident

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    Agreed, I don't know why I sought out another version.
     
  6. MedozK

    MedozK Forum Resident

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    I have the WG Target for Foreigner - Double Vision. This title is supposed to be mastered by Barry Diament, but looking at the insert it says Mastered By - George Marino/Sterling Sound. Is this a leftover from the the LP, or how can one be sure that Barry did this CD?

    [​IMG]
     
  7. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    In another thread today, it came up that someone wanted to know if they had the best mastering of Eagles Greatest Hits 2. I suggested that Diament's was the best, but then quickly realized that we don't have a way to identify it. I then thought that we don't have a way to identify many of Diament's masterings. So I thought I would mention this idea here, so that we can discuss if this thread, or perhaps a new one, would be the best place to begin to clarify how people can identify and find these wonderfully mastered CDs by Barry Diament.
     
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  8. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

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    Fantastic job on KMFDM Glory, Barry.
     
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  9. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

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    He said he couldn't be sure about LTBR
     
  10. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    We should add a question mark after it, then.
     
  11. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

    When he was still active here I asked him about it. Post 174
    Probably the best KMFDM ever sounded :laugh:
    Actually Money is another good sounding disc
     
  12. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Update

    AC/DC High Voltage
    AC/DC Let There Be Rock? (Barry is unsure if he did this one)
    AC/DC If You Want Blood You've Got It
    AC/DC Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
    AC/DC Highway To Hell
    AC/DC Back In Black*
    AC/DC For Those About To Rock*
    AC/DC Who Made Who

    Bad Company Bad Company*
    Bad Company Straight Shooter
    Bad Company 10 From 6
    Bad Company Run With the Pack
    Bad Company Burnin' Sky (?)
    Bad Company Desolation Angels (?)
    Bad Company Rough Diamonds (?)

    Baker, Anita Rapture
    Beaudry, Paul and Pathways Americas* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats
    Bellvue Cadillac Black and White*
    Blues Brothers, The Briefcase Full of Blues
    Bolin, Tommy The Ultimate
    Brickell, Edie (& New Bohemians) Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars*
    Browne, Jackson Lives In The Balance
    Browne, Jackson Lawyers In Love

    Bullock, Hiram From All Sides (?)

    Cage, John (& The Arditti Quartet) The Complete String Quartets Vol. 1*
    Call, The Reconciled
    Chic C'est Chic (?)
    Coasters, The The Ultimate Coasters* Warner Special Products 9 27604-2

    Collins, Phil Face Value*
    Collins, Phil Hello I Must Be Going*
    Collins, Phil No Jacket Required

    Cowboy Mouth Word of Mouth*
    Croce, Jim Photographs And Memories*

    Crosby Stills & Nash S/T "Couch" Atlantic 19117-2
    Crosby Stills Nash & Young Déjà vu Atlantic 19118-2
    Crosby Stills Nash & Young So Far Atlantic 19119-2

    C.S. Angels Chasing Shadows Atlantic
    Cult, The Electric (?)
    Cure, The The Head On The Door

    Danzig S/T
    Darin, Bobby The Ultimate Bobby Darin* Warner Special Products 9 27606-2

    Dokken Under Lock And Key
    Dokken Breaking The Chains

    Dream Command Fire On The Moon
    Dr. John I did *something* Dr. John. (Great guy too!) - BD


    Eagles S/T
    Eagles Desperado
    Eagles The Long Run
    Eagles Their Greatest Hits*
    Eagles Greatest Hits Volume 2

    Emerson Lake & Palmer S/T
    Emerson Lake & Palmer Brain Salad Surgery

    Enya Watermark* (original and reissue with added tracks)

    Firm, The S/T
    Firm, The Mean Business

    Flack, Roberta Killing Me Softly

    Foreigner Double Vision
    Foreigner Head Games
    Foreigner 4
    Foreigner Agent Provocateur

    Frankie Goes To Hollywood Welcome To The Pleasure Dome
    Franklin, Aretha best of (?)


    Genesis A Trick Of The Tail 32VD-1023 (see bottom of page)
    Genesis Duke
    Genesis Abacab
    Genesis Three Sides Live (US version with "Paperlate")
    Genesis S/T

    Georgia Satellites, The S/T

    Guns’N’Roses Appetite For Destruction*
    Guns’N’Roses G 'N' R Lies*

    Hanoi Rocks Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Back To Mystery City Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Self Destruction Blues Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Oriental Beat Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Helldorado Sinful Soul*
    Hex Hex*

    INXS Listen Like Thieves

    J. Geils Band, The Best Of The J. Geils Band

    Jones, Grace Island Life Island 90491-2

    Jones, Howard One To One
    Jones, Howard Dream Into Action

    Keeler Autofocus
    Keene, Tommy Based On Happy Times*
    Kershaw, Rusty Now and Then*
    Kitaro The Light Of The Spirit*
    KMFDM Glory

    Led Zeppelin I Atlantic 240031
    Led Zeppelin II Atlantic 240037
    Led Zeppelin III
    Led Zeppelin Houses Of The Holy
    Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti
    Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same
    Led Zeppelin Presence
    Led Zeppelin In Through The Out Door
    Led Zeppelin Coda

    Marley, Bob Catch A Fire Tuff Gong 422-846 201-2
    Marley, Bob Burnin'* Tuff Gong 422-846 200-2
    Marley, Bob Natty Dread* Tuff Gong 422-846 204-2
    Marley, Bob Live!* Tuff Gong 422-846 203-2
    Marley, Bob Rastaman Vibration* Tuff Gong 422-846 205-2
    Marley, Bob Exodus * Tuff Gong 422-846 208-2
    Marley, Bob Bob Marley - Kaya* Tuff Gong 422-846 209-2
    Marley, Bob Babylon By Bus* Tuff Gong 422-846 197-2
    Marley, Bob Survival* Tuff Gong 422-846 202-2
    Marley, Bob Uprising* Tuff Gong 422-846 211-2
    Marley, Bob Confrontation* Tuff Gong 422-846 207-2
    Marley, Bob Legend* Tuff Gong 846 210-2
    Marley, Bob Rebel Music*

    Meatloaf Blind Before I Stop*

    Mike + the Mechanics S/T
    Mike + the Mechanics Living Years

    Mötley Crüe Too Fast For Love

    Nash, Graham Innocent Days Atlantic 8122 79925 6 6 Manufactured in E.U. (?)
    Neville, Ivan Thanks*
    Nicholson, Gary The Sky's Not The Limit*

    Nicks, Stevie Bella Donna
    Nicks, Stevie The Wild Heart
    Nicks, Stevie Rock a Little Modern 7 90479-2

    Nico The Marbel Index*
    Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine*
    Nu Shooz Poolside
    Nugent, Ted Little Miss Dangerous*

    Of Cabbages And Kings Hunter's Moon*
    Of Cabbages And Kings Never Too Late*

    Onyan Art Reagge Rock*
    Orr, Benjamin The Lace

    Palmer, Robert Pressure Drop
    Palmer, Robert Sneakin' Sally Through The Alley
    Palmer, Robert Pride
    Palmer, Robert Riptide

    Peacock, David Thomas Grim Determination Meets the Fields of Sorrow*

    Plant, Robert Pictures At Eleven Swan Song SS 8512-2
    Plant, Robert The Principle Of Moments

    Rascals, The Ultimate Rascals* Warner Special Products 9 27605-2 this one
    Ratt Dancing Undercover
    Redding, Otis Ultimate Otis Redding* Warner Special Products 9 27608-2
    Rock City Angels Young Man's Blues

    Ronstadt, Linda Simple Dreams
    Ronstadt, Linda What's New
    Ronstadt, Linda Lush Life
    Ronstadt, Linda For Sentimental Reasons

    Salty Dog Every Dog Has It's Day

    Schwartz, Markus (& Lakou Brooklyn) Equinox* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats

    Simply Red Picture Book
    Simply Red Men And Women
    Simply Red A New Flame
    Simply Red Stars
    Simply Red "You've Got It" CD single* (four songs total including a live "Holding Back the Years" and "I Wish")

    Slayer South Of Heaven*
    Slayer Reign in Blood*

    Stacey Q Better Than Heaven
    Subdudes Lucky*
    Sun And The Moon, The Sun And The Moon*

    Terenzi, Dr. Fiorella Music From The Galaxies*
    Tesla The Great Radio Controversy

    Townshend, Pete Psychoderelict* (several versions for Atlantic including original censored dialog and cassette!)
    Townshend, Pete White City*
    Townshend, Pete Deep End Live
    Townshend, Pete Scoop*
    Townshend, Pete Another Scoop*

    Twisted Sister Come Out and Play (?)

    U2 Boy
    U2 October
    U2 War
    U2 Under A Blood Red Sky

    Underworld Born Slippy*

    Vitelli, Jason No Photographs*
    Vitelli, Jason Confluence* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats

    Work Of Art Lift* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats
    Work Of Art Simplicity* Sword in the Stone Records - All Formats
    Work Of Art Waves* Sword in the Stone Records - All Formats

    Yes The Yes Album Atlantic 19131-2
    Yes Fragile
    Yes Close To The Edge Atlantic 19133-2
    Yes Drama Atlantic 16019-2
    Yes Tormato
    Yes Classic Yes

    Zebra 3.V (?)
    Zevon, Warren A Quiet Normal Life: The Best Of Warren Zevon*

    Various artists Atlantic Soul Classics Warner Special Products 9-27601-2
    Various artists Superstars in Digital Warner Special Products 9 27600-2 - "possibly"
    Various artists Stand By Me (soundtrack)
    Various artists Woodstock - Music From The Original Soundtrack And More


    ----------------------------------------------------

    CDs NOT mastered by Barry Diament

    Foreigner - Foreigner
    Yes - Yessongs

    ----------------------------------------------------


    *From the original master tapes -- AC/DC Back In Black is "perhaps" and Eagles Greatest Hits is "I *think*... but analog 'best of's were usually created by copying from the originals and assembling the copies into a new album so that would have been 1:1 from the originals..." - BD.

    Jim Croce: see above about "best of" compilations

    Genesis: "I did create CD masters for all --or almost all-- of the Genesis albums not long after I left Atlantic in the late '80s. Since I never received copies of pressings, I do not know if any of the masters I sent were ever used for CD production." - BD

    Led Zeppelin: "The difference is that most of the Zeps (with the exception of "In Through The Out Door" and "Coda" were from flat copies and not EQ'd Limited copies." - BD

    Genesis: "The Genesis (at least the ones I did when I was still at Atlantic, were mostly from EQ'd limited tapes but were to my ears, better done than the Nicks EQ'd limited tapes - and probably the mixes as well. (I hear the "cold edge" too - but would assign it a lower frequency than you did, perhaps around 5 - 8k.)" - BD

    AC/DC: "AC/DC's "Back In Black" and "For Those About To rock" were from untouched original mixes." - BD

    Bob Marley: "And all of the Marleys were from originals - no one's EQ or limiting for me to contend with." - BD
     
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  13. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

    Thanks George for the update
     
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  14. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

    Howard Jones-Dream Into Action
    JVC Japan For US-81.2/81.2/81.2/65.7/81.2/81.2/79.4/81.2/72.5/79.4/78.7/79.4/79.4/81.2
    US PDO #01! Same
    West German Target #02 Same
    US SRC-03 (Pre-IFPI) 95.5/95.5/95.5/77.2/95.5/93.3/95.5/85.2/93.3/92.5/93.3/93.3/95.5
    Ricks, did Barry state he did a later US only or was this worldwide one his?
     
  15. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

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    Money is what got me into KMFDM. Years later, I purchased the remaster and it didn't bring back any of the nostalgia. I tracked down the original version and it put me right back in my teen years.
     
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  16. Galley

    Galley Forum Resident

    Zebra - 3.V (Atlantic 7 81692-2) was mastered by Barry Diament!
     
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  17. George P

    George P Notable Member

    Location:
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    Update

    AC/DC High Voltage
    AC/DC Let There Be Rock? (Barry is unsure if he did this one)
    AC/DC If You Want Blood You've Got It
    AC/DC Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
    AC/DC Highway To Hell
    AC/DC Back In Black*
    AC/DC For Those About To Rock*
    AC/DC Who Made Who

    Bad Company Bad Company*
    Bad Company Straight Shooter
    Bad Company 10 From 6
    Bad Company Run With the Pack
    Bad Company Burnin' Sky (?)
    Bad Company Desolation Angels (?)
    Bad Company Rough Diamonds (?)

    Baker, Anita Rapture
    Beaudry, Paul and Pathways Americas* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats
    Bellvue Cadillac Black and White*
    Blues Brothers, The Briefcase Full of Blues
    Bolin, Tommy The Ultimate
    Brickell, Edie (& New Bohemians) Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars*
    Browne, Jackson Lives In The Balance
    Browne, Jackson Lawyers In Love

    Bullock, Hiram From All Sides (?)

    Cage, John (& The Arditti Quartet) The Complete String Quartets Vol. 1*
    Call, The Reconciled
    Chic C'est Chic (?)
    Coasters, The The Ultimate Coasters* Warner Special Products 9 27604-2

    Collins, Phil Face Value*
    Collins, Phil Hello I Must Be Going*
    Collins, Phil No Jacket Required

    Cowboy Mouth Word of Mouth*
    Croce, Jim Photographs And Memories*

    Crosby Stills & Nash S/T "Couch" Atlantic 19117-2
    Crosby Stills Nash & Young Déjà vu Atlantic 19118-2
    Crosby Stills Nash & Young So Far Atlantic 19119-2

    C.S. Angels Chasing Shadows Atlantic
    Cult, The Electric (?)
    Cure, The The Head On The Door

    Danzig S/T
    Darin, Bobby The Ultimate Bobby Darin* Warner Special Products 9 27606-2

    Dokken Under Lock And Key
    Dokken Breaking The Chains

    Dream Command Fire On The Moon
    Dr. John I did *something* Dr. John. (Great guy too!) - BD


    Eagles S/T
    Eagles Desperado
    Eagles The Long Run
    Eagles Their Greatest Hits*
    Eagles Greatest Hits Volume 2

    Emerson Lake & Palmer S/T
    Emerson Lake & Palmer Brain Salad Surgery

    Enya Watermark* (original and reissue with added tracks)

    Firm, The S/T
    Firm, The Mean Business

    Flack, Roberta Killing Me Softly

    Foreigner Double Vision
    Foreigner Head Games
    Foreigner 4
    Foreigner Agent Provocateur

    Frankie Goes To Hollywood Welcome To The Pleasure Dome
    Franklin, Aretha best of (?)


    Genesis A Trick Of The Tail 32VD-1023 (see bottom of page)
    Genesis Duke
    Genesis Abacab
    Genesis Three Sides Live (US version with "Paperlate")
    Genesis S/T

    Georgia Satellites, The S/T

    Guns’N’Roses Appetite For Destruction*
    Guns’N’Roses G 'N' R Lies*

    Hanoi Rocks Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Back To Mystery City Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Self Destruction Blues Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Hanoi Rocks Oriental Beat Geffen/Uzi Suicide
    Helldorado Sinful Soul*
    Hex Hex*

    INXS Listen Like Thieves

    J. Geils Band, The Best Of The J. Geils Band

    Jones, Grace Island Life Island 90491-2

    Jones, Howard One To One
    Jones, Howard Dream Into Action

    Keeler Autofocus
    Keene, Tommy Based On Happy Times*
    Kershaw, Rusty Now and Then*
    Kitaro The Light Of The Spirit*
    KMFDM Glory

    Led Zeppelin I Atlantic 240031
    Led Zeppelin II Atlantic 240037
    Led Zeppelin III
    Led Zeppelin Houses Of The Holy
    Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti
    Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same
    Led Zeppelin Presence
    Led Zeppelin In Through The Out Door
    Led Zeppelin Coda

    Marley, Bob Catch A Fire Tuff Gong 422-846 201-2
    Marley, Bob Burnin'* Tuff Gong 422-846 200-2
    Marley, Bob Natty Dread* Tuff Gong 422-846 204-2
    Marley, Bob Live!* Tuff Gong 422-846 203-2
    Marley, Bob Rastaman Vibration* Tuff Gong 422-846 205-2
    Marley, Bob Exodus * Tuff Gong 422-846 208-2
    Marley, Bob Bob Marley - Kaya* Tuff Gong 422-846 209-2
    Marley, Bob Babylon By Bus* Tuff Gong 422-846 197-2
    Marley, Bob Survival* Tuff Gong 422-846 202-2
    Marley, Bob Uprising* Tuff Gong 422-846 211-2
    Marley, Bob Confrontation* Tuff Gong 422-846 207-2
    Marley, Bob Legend* Tuff Gong 846 210-2
    Marley, Bob Rebel Music*

    Meatloaf Blind Before I Stop*

    Mike + the Mechanics S/T
    Mike + the Mechanics Living Years

    Mötley Crüe Too Fast For Love

    Nash, Graham Innocent Days Atlantic 8122 79925 6 6 Manufactured in E.U. (?)
    Neville, Ivan Thanks*
    Nicholson, Gary The Sky's Not The Limit*

    Nicks, Stevie Bella Donna
    Nicks, Stevie The Wild Heart
    Nicks, Stevie Rock a Little Modern 7 90479-2

    Nico The Marbel Index*
    Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine*
    Nu Shooz Poolside
    Nugent, Ted Little Miss Dangerous*

    Of Cabbages And Kings Hunter's Moon*
    Of Cabbages And Kings Never Too Late*

    Onyan Art Reagge Rock*
    Orr, Benjamin The Lace

    Palmer, Robert Pressure Drop
    Palmer, Robert Sneakin' Sally Through The Alley
    Palmer, Robert Pride
    Palmer, Robert Riptide

    Peacock, David Thomas Grim Determination Meets the Fields of Sorrow*

    Plant, Robert Pictures At Eleven Swan Song SS 8512-2
    Plant, Robert The Principle Of Moments

    Rascals, The Ultimate Rascals* Warner Special Products 9 27605-2 this one
    Ratt Dancing Undercover
    Redding, Otis Ultimate Otis Redding* Warner Special Products 9 27608-2
    Rock City Angels Young Man's Blues

    Ronstadt, Linda Simple Dreams
    Ronstadt, Linda What's New
    Ronstadt, Linda Lush Life
    Ronstadt, Linda For Sentimental Reasons

    Salty Dog Every Dog Has It's Day

    Schwartz, Markus (& Lakou Brooklyn) Equinox* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats

    Simply Red Picture Book
    Simply Red Men And Women
    Simply Red A New Flame
    Simply Red Stars
    Simply Red "You've Got It" CD single* (four songs total including a live "Holding Back the Years" and "I Wish")

    Slayer South Of Heaven*
    Slayer Reign in Blood*

    Stacey Q Better Than Heaven
    Subdudes Lucky*
    Sun And The Moon, The Sun And The Moon*

    Terenzi, Dr. Fiorella Music From The Galaxies*
    Tesla The Great Radio Controversy

    Townshend, Pete Psychoderelict* (several versions for Atlantic including original censored dialog and cassette!)
    Townshend, Pete White City*
    Townshend, Pete Deep End Live
    Townshend, Pete Scoop*
    Townshend, Pete Another Scoop*

    Twisted Sister Come Out and Play (?)

    U2 Boy
    U2 October
    U2 War
    U2 Under A Blood Red Sky

    Underworld Born Slippy*

    Vitelli, Jason No Photographs*
    Vitelli, Jason Confluence* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats

    Work Of Art Lift* Soundkeeper Recordings - All Formats
    Work Of Art Simplicity* Sword in the Stone Records - All Formats
    Work Of Art Waves* Sword in the Stone Records - All Formats

    Yes The Yes Album Atlantic 19131-2
    Yes Fragile
    Yes Close To The Edge Atlantic 19133-2
    Yes Drama Atlantic 16019-2
    Yes Tormato
    Yes Classic Yes

    Zebra 3.V Atlantic 7 81692-2
    Zevon, Warren A Quiet Normal Life: The Best Of Warren Zevon*

    Various artists Atlantic Soul Classics Warner Special Products 9-27601-2
    Various artists Superstars in Digital Warner Special Products 9 27600-2 - "possibly"
    Various artists Stand By Me (soundtrack)
    Various artists Woodstock - Music From The Original Soundtrack And More


    ----------------------------------------------------

    CDs NOT mastered by Barry Diament

    Foreigner - Foreigner
    Yes - Yessongs

    ----------------------------------------------------


    *From the original master tapes -- AC/DC Back In Black is "perhaps" and Eagles Greatest Hits is "I *think*... but analog 'best of's were usually created by copying from the originals and assembling the copies into a new album so that would have been 1:1 from the originals..." - BD.

    Jim Croce: see above about "best of" compilations

    Genesis: "I did create CD masters for all --or almost all-- of the Genesis albums not long after I left Atlantic in the late '80s. Since I never received copies of pressings, I do not know if any of the masters I sent were ever used for CD production." - BD

    Led Zeppelin: "The difference is that most of the Zeps (with the exception of "In Through The Out Door" and "Coda" were from flat copies and not EQ'd Limited copies." - BD

    Genesis: "The Genesis (at least the ones I did when I was still at Atlantic, were mostly from EQ'd limited tapes but were to my ears, better done than the Nicks EQ'd limited tapes - and probably the mixes as well. (I hear the "cold edge" too - but would assign it a lower frequency than you did, perhaps around 5 - 8k.)" - BD

    AC/DC: "AC/DC's "Back In Black" and "For Those About To rock" were from untouched original mixes." - BD

    Bob Marley: "And all of the Marleys were from originals - no one's EQ or limiting for me to contend with." - BD
     
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  18. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

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    Perhaps a little nitpicking, but I wonder if the live portion of G N' R Lies was also mastered using the original master tapes as it was previously released as an e.p. on a different label. Just wondering for metadata purposes.
     
  19. rxcory

    rxcory proud jazz band/marching band parent

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    Thanks for the recent updates @George P . Can't think of any other thread that I refer back to as often as this one!
     
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  20. sgtpppr84

    sgtpppr84 Forum Resident

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    That different label, Uzi Suicide, was nothing more than a made-up label from Geffen to make it look like an independent release.
     
  21. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

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    Still no definitive answer on Permanent Vaycay?
     
  22. pinkchris1967

    pinkchris1967 Exalted and Revered Member

    Location:
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    Sorry, I know this is weird that I'm replying to my own comment, but I'm not sure I can say that PV was done by Barry. I was listening to it earlier and I noticed that it was sort of loud and trebbly.
     
  23. Dhreview16

    Dhreview16 Forum Resident

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    I'm no Diament expert, but the Rapture album by Anita Baker is lovely. I think Diament did the CD and Bernie Grundman the original LP album, but I am happy to be corrected. Anyway, they both sound great.
     
  24. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    NYC
    :agree:
     
  25. Blue Gecko

    Blue Gecko Peace

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    I'd like to add Kevin Eubanks -- Sundance to Diament's work. Details below:

    Sundance [CD][1984 GRP {Barry Diament}][DIDX 42][JP for US]
    GRP-D-9506, DIDX 42
    Pressing: CSR JP (Oct 1982-1988)
    Mastered By [Compact Disc Master Tape Preparation]: Barry Diament
    Mastered By [LP]: Ted Jensen
    EAC: 98.6 / 90.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 55.6
    Barcode: none
    Matrix / Runout: DIDX-45 11A4
    Hub logo: CSR Repeating
    Label Country: Made In Japan
    Label Series: DIDX 42; GRP silverface; Digital Master​

    I believe that "Compact Disc Master Tape Preparation" by Barry Diament in the credits implies Barry mastered the CD vs. Jensen the LP.

    Does anyone else want to weigh in on this atypical credit?
     
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