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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Doug Hess Jr., Nov 3, 2001.

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  1. Doug Hess Jr.

    Doug Hess Jr. Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Belpre, Ohio
    While in search of the perfect sounding CDs, Amp, Speakers, etc. that pleased our ears, there have been some things that...well...sounded kinda silly, but we tried them anyway. So here I stand at the podium for "silly things anonymous"...Hi all, "Hi Doug". Yes, I admit it, I tried the green ink around the CD edge to improve the sound. For me, it didn't help. I also hooked up a "center channel speaker" to hear what I had been missing. I heard, but it wasn't good. Anyone else?
    (Note: this is NOT an attack on conditioning CDs or anything that you feel really helps your system)
     
  2. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    ..... not sure if I should be doing this but .....

    There are a few DIY (Do It Yourself) people on this board. Well, OK, that's cool. Then I learned of an inexpensive way to upgrade speakers. You have pro cables running from your amp to your speakers, right? 10 gage, whatever. But when the sound gets INTO the speaker, the wires from the cross over to the driver(s) are really thin - like 20 or 22 gage. So I upgraded the internal speaker wires, hoping that the maufacturer was just being cheap. They were! Much fuller sound, etc. Very easy to do if you do it ONE wire at a time!

    Then I decided (I had an abundance of speakers at the time - well I still do, actually!) to try to upgrade the sound in one of my spare pairs (brand shall go nameless, thank you - but they were 20 years old, British and sounded crappy. No base. Dull highs. Even mono sounded crappy through them. But great imaging!) Well I drilled 2.5 inch holes beneath the bass driver to give it more bottom end. Nope. Tried inserting plastic tubes in the holes (to make the "hole" opening at the REAR of the speaker). Nope. Stuffed it with fiberglass to eliminate vibrations. Nope. Reinforced the inside corners by glueing blocks of wood to give the box a more sturdy stance. Nope. This took weeks. Then, I contributed to the landfill. *sigh* :rolleyes: What a waste of time!

    Of course the classic stuff is when I got all excited over the new remasters. Traded in old CDs. Could not figure out why the new stuff sounded so lifeless.... still had highs! Maybe too bright sometimes! Bass was there! What was wrong!?!

    Duhhhhh.... donno.

    Then I picked up DCC's Band on the Run (What a REVELATION!), discovered this board and the rest is history. Luckily I did not... err... upgrade(?) (although it really was a downgrade!) too much of my CD collection.

    What you think to be Heaven could turn out to be Hell! My fav. A. Cooper quote!
     
  3. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Back in the 1970's, there was a way to get free Quad from your stereo. Of course I tried it:

    Get a third speaker, put it behind you, wire it up this way: Attach the + speaker wire to the - of the left channel receiver, and attach the - sepaker wire to the - of the right channel. Ta Da! Instant "Difference" coming out of the back. In other words, the information from the left and right channels, but NO center information at all, just the stereo echo from the vocals. Combined with the two front channels, it really sounded neat, hearing the vocals come from the front, and the stereo echo of the vocals coming from the back....

    Well, I just loved that to death. In fact I disconnected the two front speakers for a while and ONLY listened to the rear channel. Just music and echo, no vocals!

    I finally got over it, but those of us who had our systems set up like that really were the forerunners of Dolby Surround, eh?
     
  4. Larry Naramore

    Larry Naramore Bonafied Knucklehead

    Location:
    Sun Valley, Calif.
    Does smoking banana peels count?

    [ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: Larry Naramore ]
     
  5. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    Filtered: No. Menthol: Yes.

    ;)
     
  6. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    Heyyyy wait a minute I'm the one in Vancouver and in this neck of the woods banana, be it menthol or not just don't make the cake besides I didn't inhale [​IMG]

    [ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: Dave ]
     
  7. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
    I spend a fair amount of my on-line time at www.audioasylum.com, and there have been some excellent tweaks suggested on that forum. I heard there that the Acme Audio silver-plated outlet was much better than the Pass and Seymour 5241-I outlet I had been using, so when the manufacturer, Michael Brinkman, put one up for auction I scored it.

    The Acme Audio outlets are P&S 5241s that he dismantles and then gets the metal parts silver-plated. After reassambly the outlets are cryogenically treated. The outlets cost $35.

    In my system, replacing my already good outlet with the Acme Audio unit made a fundamental difference in dynamics and sense of energy. Both ends of the frequency spectrum were improved also - deeper, richer, faster bass and smoother, more extended treble. But it was the increased sense of musical energy that appealed most to me.

    If you are into after-market powercords you already know the sort of improvements attention to this area can produce in a resolving system. But powercords can cost 10 times the Acme Audio outlets (and more). I was shocked but very impressed with the new sound at my place. This was using a modest system: Arcam Alpha 9 CDP, Arcam Alpha 10 integrated amp, and Paradigm MiniMonitor V.2s. The outlet was broken-in servicing my computer before being moved to power the stereo.

    Please don't ask me how or why these work so well. I would not have believed it until I tried it, but the recommendation came from someone I trust in this area, so I felt I could spare the $35 to find out.

    If you don't want to go this far, get a Pass & Seymour 5241-I (no substitutes) for a few bucks and wire it up. You'll still get a nice change for the better.

    As always, YMMV.

    Regards,
    Metralla
     
  8. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    Fascinating read, Metralla! Worth checking out as I really do not want to replace my original vintage power cords! The power cord for the CD player is another matter, though!

    But I wonder where I can find one of these outlets locally. If I can't find any place that knows what I am talking about, is there a place on the web that I can find these?

    :)
     
  9. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
  10. christopher

    christopher Forum Neurotic

    you've just described eno's "ambient speaker system" as detailed in his liner notes for his 1982 album, "ambient #4: on land". i used this set up for years and can attest that it sounded great.

    later, chris
     
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