FISHER all-tube receivers from 1961-66 are cheap and sound wonderful!

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Steve Hoffman, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. Pickoid

    Pickoid Forum Resident

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    Little Rock, AR
    Here's an (awful) snapshot of my 500-TX. Late night and fluorescent lighting do not make good photos... Not quite as ugly as the solid state 400 Steve posted IMO, but still pretty bad. The Tune-O-Matic just kills it. It looks better in person, though. The walnut cabinet is lovely.
     

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  2. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

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    That is much better looking, yes. Sleeker than the 400 SS. Everyone loved the new solid state stuff, it was cool running, no maintenance, etc. No one noticed (at the time) or chose to ignore the downgraded sound quality.
     
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  3. Leigh

    Leigh https://orf.media

    I've had the misfortune to hear some early transisorized amplifiers (Sansui, Dynaco) and was amazed at the awful sound. It seems it took a while before SS sounded good - you could argue there is an analogy with the progression of digital sound.

    I rarely see people seeking out and paying lots for vintage solid state amps, or early CD players, for their sound anyway!
     
  4. Gary Warren

    Gary Warren New Member

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    Chicago Area
    The better tube HF gear is much in demand and there are still some diehards that build tube homebrew transmitters and linear amplifiers. The dynamic range of the tube front ends is better than the common solid state equipment today and there are no PLLs, hence no phase noise.
     
  5. IanL

    IanL Senior Member

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    Oneonta, NY USA
    I loved my Fisher 500B! I remember I put on one of Ray's DCC aluminum Greatest Hits discs through that thing and both my brother and my dad stood there with their chins on their chests! Neither one of them are audiophiles in the least, but they were astounded at how real Ray's voice sounded to them. My brother offered to buy the Fisher from me on the spot! I hadn't had it long so I declined. A couple of years later, after constant nagging from him, I finally gave him a great deal on it. I already have a McIntosh MC240/MX-110 system which I absolutely prefer, but that was a fun little piece that did some pretty amazing tricks with voices.

    Here's a photo of my, or rather, now my brother's 500B:
     

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  6. Wie Gehts?

    Wie Gehts? New Member

    Roughly speaking, how long can one leave his/her hi-fi powered off before this becomes a concern? I often go weeks and even months without listening due to a variety of circumstances. Thank you.
     
  7. Nonhuman

    Nonhuman Forum Resident

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    Waverly, NY, USA
    Personally I wouldn't worry about weeks or even a few months as long as the amplifier is stored in a dry place. However old electrolytics can become unstable at any time, it's just the nature of the beast. Eventually they will go bad. The paste inside the electrolytic stages drys out with age.

    Sadly, a lot of old tube equipment gets stored in a damp basement or garage etc., where moisture might collect in the transformer windings. One of the best things about exercising tube equipment regularily, is that it keeps the transformers free from this type of abuse. For me, I can't think of anything worse than losing an output transformer.
     
  8. Done A Ton

    Done A Ton Birdbrain

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    Oh, I bet you could if you really tried.

    Good thread Steve, thanks for the info.
     
  9. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

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    No set time but if pressed I'd say about five years or so. Nothing for you to worry about.
     
  10. ddhd

    ddhd Forum Resident

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    Long Island, NY
    Nice thread!

    The 400 I have now was on the curb waiting for the trashman. It was in one of those large console units. I came back with a screwdriver and carefully took it out.
    After having it professionally rebuild for about 300-325 which was two-three years ago, I feel like I've got a true piece of vintage audio. BTW, it can hang with my wooaudio wa3 headamp (which is a point to point tube unit - Bendix 6080WB/Amprex6922)
     
  11. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

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    Nice save. Any pictures?
     
  12. ddhd

    ddhd Forum Resident

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    Long Island, NY
    Sure do, unfortunately I've never posted a pic so I'll read up on how to do that and then post some.
     
  13. Nonhuman

    Nonhuman Forum Resident

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    In context, I can't. But then I do all my own electronic work, so there is no labor expense.
     
  14. pdenny

    pdenny 22-Year SHTV Participation Trophy Recipient

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    That's a wonderful payoff, isn't it? I've had quite a few of those experiences over the years since I got my 800-C, but now that I have my Large Advents hooked up to it, I need to bring all of those people back to hear it again! :righton:
     
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  15. kt66brooklyn

    kt66brooklyn Senior Member

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    brooklyn, ny
    Ask around, you can get this stuff given to you. I have a Scott 222C, a Harmon Kardon A500 and a Fisher tube tuner that were all free. It's all still out there. The A500 is a great headphone amp. I rescued it from a trash heap.
     
  16. sushimaster

    sushimaster Forum Resident

    Excellent thread :righton: Thanks for this 411 Steve!

    - Sushimaster
     
  17. BlueJayWay

    BlueJayWay Forum Resident

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    DE, USA
    +1
    Makes me want to brush up on my very rusty EE skills and bust out the old soldering iron :agree:, although it was all SS transistor theory by the time I started college.
     
  18. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

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    Most people in America have NO idea that you can still use vacuum tube equipment or that you can even buy tubes. I've talked to people who work in the music business who are very surprised that one can still run vintage gear or that it even sounds any good (or as one record exec. stated: "You mean that stereo system for sale with the little light bulbs in it?") :eek:
     
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  19. Mike in OR

    Mike in OR Through Middle-earth...onto Heart of The Sunrise

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  20. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

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    Long Island
    Years ago I would call up those stand alone TV repair stores asking if they had any old vacuum tubes lying around. One particular call, a woman answered the phone and I asked the usual question. Her response, we repair VCR's and TV's....we don't sell any vacuum cleaner parts!!:laugh:
     
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  21. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

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    los angeles
    my 30A monoblocks are some of the most beautiful amps I've ever heard. I think Steve might have just resurrected the Fisher brand as a collector's item.
     
  22. Waynefi

    Waynefi Confused over the confusion ?

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    Northern Ohio
    All this talk has me wondering would one of these Fishers power my Tetra 305's with 88 db sensitivity, with a long run of speaker cable 15-20 feet ?
     
  23. Leigh

    Leigh https://orf.media

    Of course, but you probably won't shake the rafters. I have a 35 wpc tube amp that powers 87 dB speakers just fine and gets loud, but not stadium loud.
     
  24. phallumontis

    phallumontis Active Member

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    Chicago, IL
    As long as you're using thick (12 or thicker) gauge speaker wire, 15-20 ft is no problem.
     
  25. Whatever1

    Whatever1 New Member

    Results...

    Has anyone won any of the Fishers ???? Or has anyone bid on any listed ?
    I see some still available any would like to bid but ... if someone here is trying I will not bid against them.
     

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