Fleetwood Mac "Rumours"...2 target CD's, each with different mastering

would be nice to get SH's story!!

meantime, which is the definitive Target for overall sound quality?

and is there another CD mastering that is superior to all of the Targets?

 

That's the same as my WG by Polygram copy.

 

Have you had a chance to check the EAC values on it?

 

I received a copy of Fleetwood Mac - Rumours [0301-2] West German 'Target' cd today...it has the same EAC peak levels that SkyBlueShag posted...so there IS two West German 'Target' cd's of Rumours with different mastering, at least according to EAC!!

 

So now the question is: Do your two WG target discs sound different from one another?

 

And in what way do they sound different?

 

There are also two differently mastered West German Targets of Mirage for those keeping score at home:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=153167

 

Will let you know ASAP.

 

Sorry,

Just came accross this thread for the first time. I have both.

They do sound different, and the earlier one sounds best!

 

Thanks, can you remind me how to tell which is the earlier one?

 

After listening to both of these 'Target' pressings, I agree...the "Made In West Germany" is better than the "Made In Wesy Germany By Polygram" version.
It is slightly (but noticably) louder than the second 'target' pressing and sounds fuller/warmer IMO.
I have yet to compare these against the two Japanese pressings I have.

 

Hi Simon,

Do you have both of the Fleetwood Mac 'Mirage' cd's and if so, which one do you prefer?

Regards,

David

 

I think you will be happy(er) with the 01 version. Will be interested to hear what you feel when you get the chance to compare the two!?
As for 'Mirage', I have the "Made In West Germany" [01] pressing.

 

Can we get a simple recap of the German and Japan disks available and in the order of preference (sonically speaking...)?

Many thanks!

 

Ok now this is my first post. Does anybody know where to find the original Target cd?
My cousin bought me a used copy of Rumours off of Amazon for $19 and it turned out to be
the same exact disc as my USA RE-2. I knew immediately when I imported the waves
from my RE-2 and this "non-mastered" BMG version into Logic and they completely
100% null out.

My hunt for this originiates back to around 1985 when we got our first cd player and we
had a copy of Rumours on cd. I remember to this day my father and his audiophile
friend sitting down and comparing the cd to the original LP and I could clearly hear
how lifeless the cd sounded. They both had their doubts at that point about the then
"new high quality audio medium" of the compact disc. Since then I always wondered
if the cd was ever properly remastered and it was to my surprise that the cd we have had
here in the house(that my brother 'stole' one day)and the new disc I bought a few years
back are identical,and that there was an earlier release with a completely different
and much better mastering. I don't wanna take a chance and risk losing money
because someone decided to pull a scam just to get rid of their mail-order-cd-club copy
at an outrageous price.

 

Hi and welcome, Skyflash!

I boiught my Target in the Classifieds. They come up there from time to time. However, new members can't view the Classifieds until 30 days or 50 posts, whichever is later, IIRC.

 

I have the bmg club cd. the hub printing is...1 3012-2 re-2 src# 08
gdw cold start 5.03

 

Hi Simon,

Glad you finally found the '01' version and in particular, that you prefer it over the "04". Glad I didn't steer you in the wrong direction!

Regards,

David

 

It's been a long time since I started this thread, and I don't have all my copies of 'Rumours' accessible at the moment, but here's my take on my preferences...

Japan 32XD Target pressing: Prefered by some forum members, most noteably Dave. This is NOT my prefered Target pressing.

I like the 32XD Target pressing, and it does have a minor bit of, dare I say 'crispy tonality' to it, but the major thing it has going against it for me personally, is that it uses the version of 'Gold Dust Woman', that fades with the diminishing "Howling" sound at the end of the song. This really takes away from the song, in my humble opinion, and kind of ruins it for me. Maybe they toned it down, so it didn't freighten the kids?.

BTW, for those of you who are curious, the ultra rare 'RL' vinyl pressing of 'Rumours', uses the same mix. Or maybe I should say the Japan 32XD uses the same mix as the 'RL' vinyl pressing of 'Rumours'.

The Japan Target pressed for the USA, and the West Germany '01' Target CD's: These use the mix which has the haunting, howling at the end of 'Gold Dust Woman', which gets louder as the song ends. It really makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up. This is the same mix which was used for the 1st pressings of 'Rumours' on vinyl upon it's initial release. For the reasons specified above, I prefer the Japan for USA Target, and the West Germany '01' Target CD's.

All 3 of the versions I mentioned above sound very good, and will give even the original 1st pressing vinyl a good run for it's money. This is of course, only my humble opinion. Your mileage may vary.

Hopefully this will all be a mute point, when/if the highly anticipated Steve Hoffman remastering of 'Rumours' scheduled to be released soon on both 33 RPM, and 45 RPM vinyl, are actually released.

 

Hi Scott,

Do you have a 'further' preference between the Japan Target and the West German 01 Target? I only ask because according to EAC, they show different peak levels!

Regards,

David

 

Hi David.

Unfortunately the only Target CD I have easy access to at the moment, is the West Germany '01' Target pressing. Maybe this weekend sometime I'll be able to get at my Japan for USA Target CD, and I'll be able to answer your question more effectively. Sorry I can't help you out right at the moment.

 

Will be interested to hear what you think when you get the chance.

David