I also have a Japan for USA 'Non' Target CD pressing of 'Rumours', that has the same identical text layout as the Target design CD, just without the Target design. It even has the gap between 'Made In_____Japan' at 6 o'clock on the face of the CD. I've been meaning to do a comparison of the two, and this will be a good opportunity for me to do so.
I have the 32XD, but I'd like to get the "01" WG and/or the Japan for US. How can I identify this "01" in the case of the WG?
The '01' is in the matrix number (cd inner ring). I doubt there's any difference in packaging, so you'll probably have to examine the disc. . .
You are absolutely right...that's exactly what I had to do when I began searching for this disc earlier this year. It made it a bit of a challenge...but I guess that is all part of the fun in collecting...just so long as you eventually are able to find what you are looking for!
Just for the fun of it I bought another copy of Rumours today...This one is 1-3010-2 re-3-03 gdw cold start 5.02...How do these compare to the versions you folks are talking about?
Just a little something that might make your search a little easier. My experience, has been that the West Germany Target CD's of 'Rumours', with the '01' at the end of the matrix, in the inner mirror band, are those that have "Made In || West Germany", as opposed to "Made In West || Germany by Polygram", at the bottom perimeter of the face of the CD. Here's an actual pic of what I'm talking about, on Ralph's Target CD web site.
Have you decided yet? I have both and it could be my ears tricking me but it sounds like the Japan for US is a little less edgy and "sweeter" than the WG 01. If nothing else, the levels on each song for the Japan for US seem more consistent. I can't stand having to turn up the Chain on the WG CD in the middle of listening due to its relative "quietness".
Like many of you, I have a handful of different Rumours pressings, and I suspect that this discussion may become irrelevant when (or if) the Hoffman mastered 45 RPM Rumours becomes available. . . . . keeping my fingers crossed.
I have the Japan Sayno version and I think it sounds AMAZING ! No need for me to look elsewhere ! But I'm a sucker for the colour shemes on those west german targets
I guess I don't have an ear for this stuff? I always have heard here how the original US dics is bad. I'm not hearing this? It sounds very good compared to say the original US pressing of "let there be rock" That one sounds like AM radio to me.
Or perhaps you do, more than you know. You can literally have two identical pressings with identical matrix numbers that sound different. It has happened with many labels including DCC and MFSL so no one seems to be immune to this phenomena. Scott says his 32XD sounds kind of crispy. I have no doubt it is a high possibility and do not believe Scott is lying. All I can suggest is to find another one and compare as my copy does not sound crispy at all and is completely worth the effort. Reading peak levels and wave graphs will not tell you this unfortunately and nothing is cast in stone regarding CD pressings from my experiences.
I seen a Made In USA by Sanyo pressing today. def an early pressing that similar to the early Japan for US Sanyo pressing cds. It is a early W2 catalog#. I am wondering if this has the same mastering and mix as the Japan Sanyo US target ? anyone know ? I would have bought it but $10 seemed like a lot for something I already own in two targets. Still, it made me curious.
No, there was no MFSL CD of any Fleetwood Mac album. However, 'Mirage' was released on MFSL vinyl. A simple search should help you out on finding the thread in which Steve comments on the 'Rumours' master tapes, while remastering for vinyl LP, I guess about 3 or 4 years ago.
It makes me curious too. I probably would have not been able to resist getting it, although I think it's more than likely that it's the same mastering as most of the other USA discs.
I don't think the original SRC USA cds have the same mastering and mix as the Japan for Sanyo Target pressing. I am pretty sure that cd has the same mastering considering it came from Sanyo. I have heard some very early US pressings had that same mastering and mix. I will pick it up next time I am there. I ams ure someone would want it, a lot cheaper than the target.
Over in the first pressing CD thread, I posted about how I had just gotten the Sanyo Japan non-target, and how I was interested to see that the CD design was literally identical to the target except for the absence of the target design. In checking back in this thread, I see Scott J had already mentioned that here. Anyhow, in the other thread, someone mentioned that they thought the Sanyo mastering was "terrible compared to the 32XD" -- which got me wondering about it. It had been a while since I'd compared. I did a brief comparison of the Sanyo Japan mastering and the 32XD. I was surprised that the differences were fairly obvious. The Sanyo has a more gentle sound and more pronounced (and pleasant, IMO) bass. The 32XD is just a bit harder. Going in, I knew I liked both masterings, and I still do -- but I prefer the Sanyo.
