Fogerty: the Grateful Dead ‘sabotaged our chance in the limelight’ at Woodstock

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  1. Tom H

    Tom H Forum Resident

    Kapolei, Hawaii
    Yes, in his video on FB he says the Grateful Dead went on at midnight, played for 45 minutes, stopped playing, took LSD, and there was no music for an hour. Then they went back on stage and played some more. I am not sure if this timeline is accurate, but I am not taking his word for it.
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  2. TerpStation

    TerpStation "Music's not for everyone." Thread Starter

    washington, dc
    Grateful Dead[edit]
    10:30 p.m. – 12:05 a.m.[nb 3]

    1. "St. Stephen"
    2. "Mama Tried"
    3. "Dark Star"
    4. "High Time"
    5. "Turn On Your Love Light"
    Creedence Clearwater Revival[edit]
    12:30 a.m. – 1:20 a.m.

    1. "Born on the Bayou"
    2. "Green River"
    3. "Ninety-Nine and a Half (Won't Do)"
    4. "Bootleg"
    5. "Commotion"
    6. "Bad Moon Rising"
    7. "Proud Mary"
    8. "I Put a Spell on You"
    9. "Night Time Is the Right Time"
    10. "Keep on Chooglin'"
    11. "Susie Q"
    Janis Joplin (with the Kozmic Blues Band)[edit]
    2:00 a.m. – 3:00 a.m.[11]

    1. "Raise Your Hand"
    2. "As Good as You've Been to This World"
    3. "To Love Somebody"
    4. "Summertime"
    5. "Try (Just a Little Bit Harder)"
    6. "Kozmic Blues"
    7. "I Can't Turn You Loose"
    8. "Work Me, Lord"
    9. "Piece of My Heart"
    10. "Ball and Chain"
    Sly & the Family Stone[edit]
    3:30 a.m. – 4:20 a.m.

    1. "M'Lady"
    2. "Sing a Simple Song"
    3. "You Can Make It If You Try"
    4. "Everyday People"
    5. "Dance to the Music"
    6. "Music Lover"
    7. "I Want to Take You Higher"
    8. "Love City"
    9. "Stand!"
    The Who[edit]
    5:00 a.m. – 6:05 a.m.; set included most of Tommy

    1. "Heaven and Hell"
    2. "I Can't Explain"
    3. "It's a Boy"
    4. "1921"
    5. "Amazing Journey"
    6. "Sparks"
    7. "Eyesight to the Blind (The Hawker)"
    8. "Christmas"
    9. "The Acid Queen"
    10. "Pinball Wizard" (followed by Abbie Hoffman incident)
    11. "Do You Think It's Alright?"
    12. "Fiddle About"
    13. "There's a Doctor"
    14. "Go to the Mirror!"
    15. "Smash the Mirror"
    16. "I'm Free"
    17. "Tommy's Holiday Camp"
    18. "We're Not Gonna Take It"
    19. "See Me, Feel Me"
    20. "Summertime Blues"
    21. "Shakin' All Over"
    22. "My Generation" (shortened version)
    23. "Naked Eye" (instrumental finale only)
    Jefferson Airplane[edit]
    8:00 a.m. – 9:40 a.m.

    1. "The Other Side of This Life"
    2. "Somebody to Love"
    3. "3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds"
    4. "Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon"
    5. "Eskimo Blue Day"
    6. "Plastic Fantastic Lover"
    7. "Wooden Ships"
    8. "Uncle Sam Blues"
    9. "Volunteers"
    10. "The Ballad of You and Me and Pooneil"
    11. "Come Back Baby"
    12. "White Rabbit"
    13. "The House at Pooneil Corners"
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  3. dsdu

    dsdu Forum Resident

    Santa Cruz, CA
    If only the GD had had the courtesy to hurry up and get electrocuted CCR could have had their chance in the limelight.:realmad:
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  4. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...

    He is one bitter dude.

    Must have been a pain-in-the-ass to be in a band with him.
  5. The absolute strangest artist/management story of all time. A totally, and I mean totally , bizarre tale.
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  6. aroney

    aroney Who really gives a...?

    True, although it's my understanding that he was offered other time slots (especially when it was obvious that the schedule was completely messed up) but refused because he wanted to be last.

    No matter - his set is firmly secure in the annals of Rock History. :agree:
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  7. Sha Na Na. They got their very own television show. None of the other acts can make that claim.
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  8. Chuckee

    Chuckee Forum Resident

    Upstate, NY, USA
    In the footage from the PBS doc, Jefferson Airplane got the time when everyone finally went to sleep. CCR actually had prime time. Jimi wouldn't have been quite so late, but it was delayed because of the rain. Most people left after the storm.
  9. Hey , if Fogerty can be sued for plagiarising himself then I would say you have a good case.
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  10. JozefK

    JozefK Forum Resident


    It's a Beautiful Day was almost invited to play at Woodstock. When Michael Lang was negotiating with Bill Graham to get the Grateful Dead to appear, Graham insisted Lang put one of two other acts that he also managed on the bill. Lang then listened to a tape of both It's a Beautiful Day and the other band and liked them both so much that he couldn't decide, so he flipped a coin and It's a Beautiful Day lost. The band that won the toss was Santana, who became stars overnight.​

    The second most important coin toss in Rock history?
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  11. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke You shoulda heard just what I seen

    Was he really that much out of his element? I'd be curious how many other outdoor festivals CCR played. "Everyone was sound asleep, the band before us took drugs, we went on late, the sound was horrible " Sounds like a control freak wasn't able to control too much and threw a fit. And is still complaining
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  12. FillmoreGuy

    FillmoreGuy Forum Resident

    springfield nj
    I think Ten Years After also got a career boost from performing, and being included in the film.
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  13. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke You shoulda heard just what I seen

    I remember Alvin being interviewed once saying that after the film came out , every concert they did there was the inevitable watermelon rolling up on stage after "I'm Going Home ". So they definitely got a watermelon boost :D
  14. Toddarino

    Toddarino Total Hunk

    I wonder why this was allowed to exist but the Crosby vs the Doors thread was deleted. Both are old men bitching about (perceived) wrongs.
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  15. AppleCorp3

    AppleCorp3 Forum Resident

    Well, based on the above, it would seem your inclination would be well grounded.
  16. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke You shoulda heard just what I seen

    Yeah this'll probably get shut down any minute. Enjoy it while you can.
  17. Glass Candy

    Glass Candy Forum Resident

    Long sections of this performance have been released for 25 years. Much of it has been released on video even. The thing about it being under wraps is pure hype and I am surprised people here buy it.
  18. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke You shoulda heard just what I seen

    Whats that got to do with this thread?
  19. dee

    dee Forum Resident

    ft. lauderdale, fl
    And you shouldn't :).
    I guess it must have felt like midnight to him. Even if it wasn't. Their approaches to a lot of things couldn't be more different. The intermimable waiting would have driven him batty. His (lead singer, lead guitar player, THE songwriter) band had their own internal issues too so there's that also. He didn't and hasn't often handled it well. He's apparently not a fan of the Dead and a more difficult personality. He might be mad at himself with not being in the film and its possible he imagines that somehow being so could have somehow saved his band, when that seems unlikely. On stage, I don't doubt that they "couldn't hear ****" or maybe it all just felt like a toxic blur and that it was a miserable experience for him. He was not really a happy person. He's come a long way apparently and is still going. In an interview linked above, which the headline offers only the negative bait, he admits as much. Paraphrasing, music was all he was good at, all the other stuff, not so much.Still, Jerry was a fan of his guitar playing. He should just let this go but many of us should probably let go things we are somehow incapable of actually letting go of. On its own the Dead's set seems okay to me fwiw, in the broader context of the day, or night, and the event, and John's kind of personality, his approach to performance, life, etc, the whole of it obviously drove him bats**t crazy in trying to cope with before his band could go on. Luckily for us music fans, the CCR performance and now mix of it, is a must-listen and essential album.
    Sorry for textsize change...
    I have no bark in the squabble. I have an immediate family of Deadheads :) who I adore.
  20. Edwin Hawley

    Edwin Hawley Forum Resident

    Fogerty evidently has an elephant's memory when it comes to things that bother him. Are there any happy stories from the old days in his book? I'll never read it (for obvious reasons).
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  21. jwoverho

    jwoverho Senior Member

    Mobile, AL USA
    How long do you think a band with Fogerty, Crosby and Ginger Baker would last?

    My money’s on Ginger. :D

    It’s truly sad: as much joy as CCR has brought with their music, J.C. Fogerty is one of the world’s biggest downers.
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  22. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    What was the first?
    The coin toss to see who would go on the plane when Buddy Holly/Big Bopper/Richie Valens died?
  23. Doggiedogma

    Doggiedogma Forum Resident

    I also believe Richie Havens had a HUUUGE career boost from Woodstock - "Freedom" (along with Canned Heat's "Going Up The Country") were pretty much the Woodstock soundtrack.
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  24. Edwin Hawley

    Edwin Hawley Forum Resident

    The one with Tommy Allsup that never happened or the one with Dion that had no impact whatsoever on his decision not to fly?
  25. spencer1

    spencer1 Great Western Forum Resident

    In his defense pretty much all of us were pissed off about Nixon.
    Currently anybody not concerned about climate change I view with suspicion.
    But the Dead? Most lovable band ever!

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