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Frank Sinatra's Capitol and Reprise recordings now under one roof

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bob F, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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  2. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    It was my meant as my seeming inability to keep up with you, Bob F.
    When it comes to Sinatra you're always ahead of the rest of us.
     
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  3. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    Question

    How does the recent UMG vinyl reissue of Sinatra at The Sands compare in sound quality to the MoFi pressing? I assume the UMG pressing is digitally sourced.

    Thx
     
  4. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I wish there were a Frank Sinatra sticky that lists all the Bob F. threads.
    A sort of Table of Contents to what can sometimes be found in the search
    mode. If there were a poll "Do you want a Sinatra thread sticky?" everybody
    would vote yes for it.
     
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  5. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

    You could just ask that new fellow in the My Way 50th thread. He says he’s read most of them. ;)
     
  6. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Link?
     
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  7. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

  8. CBackley

    CBackley Chairman of the Bored

    @Bob F Is that SFF thread the best place to find info on the nature of the Sinatra hi-res releases, such as mastering used? I’ve been wanting to buy some Sinatra from HD Tracks, but I want to make sure I do my homework first. I really want good digital versions of Capitol albums that weren’t released by MFSL, for example.
     
  9. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

    I linked to that SFF post as a good hi-res list, one which I try to keep updated. Matt’s (@MLutthans) website is the best place for audio info and comparisons:

    Welcome Sinatra Cole
    Capitol Scorecard
     
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  10. mbleicher1

    mbleicher1 Tube Amp Curmudgeon

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    California
    I can’t read all 100+ pages of this to find an answer, but are the only CD options for Sinatra’s Capitol albums still those awful CDs mastered in 1998? I know Only the Lonely got a reissue. What about Wee Small and Swinging Lovers?
     
  11. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

    Location:
    Hollywood, CA
    Please refer to the post above yours from @Bob F
     
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  12. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

    Wee Small Hours: LP/HD reissue in 2014; no new CD
    Swingin’ Lovers: hybrid SACD by MFSL in 2014; LP in 2016
    Several more Capitol albums on CD/hybrid SACD/LP by MFSL, and LP/HD by UMe
     
  13. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

    Location:
    Hollywood, CA
    40th anniversary of the release of Trilogy this week.
     
  14. roda12

    roda12 WATERTOWN FOREVER

    Location:
    Berlin, Germany
    Listened to the complete Trilogy album a few weeks ago. And once again I was stunned by the rather weak choice of songs on "The Present". Although without a doubt there are a few highlights there, I still can't see why a nice swinging recording like "Isn't she lovely" was deleted and "Song sung blue" was kept.
    People are always picking on "Some enchanted evening" (later 60's version) and "Mrs Robinson" (which both I like very much).
    go and check out "Song sung blue".
     
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  15. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    Have forever said that The Present was the weakest link in that Trilogy. Mr. S was performing some really decent tunes in concert by young songwriters ("There' Something About You" and "Remember" by Elton John first come to mind). One could even throw in "Maybe This Time" as well...but maybe he didn't want to over Ebb & Kander and Liza. The record plays thru OK up to and included "Summer Me, Winter Me". The rest are poorly done. And that CHORUS????? Why?
     
  16. Beaneydave

    Beaneydave Forum Resident

    You and Me is a favourite of mine.



    peace and love✌Dave
     
  17. WLL

    WLL Popery Of Mopery

    ...Some ways back here I posted about and linked to two articles from the New York Times' Sunday magazine that both followed a " The Great American Popular Songbook is coming back! " tenor (BTW, when did that phrase really start being used widely as a way to sell albums with divers in black tie and formals on the cover:confused:?). One by Sidney Zion from the early Eighties used the success of " Trilogy " (platinum:confused:) as a foundation for its " That rock'n'roll stuff is PLAYED OUT:nauga:! Didja' hear me:D? " argument.
    Additional stuff in another draft was lost:cry:, more later.
     
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  18. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    Hollywood, CA
    I have a copy of that magazine in my scrapbook collection of Mr. S memorabilia. I dug out the one with all of the Trilogy reviews and ads. Everybody loved The Past, was so-so on The Present and still scratching their heads as to what to make of The Future.

    BTW, on release date, Trilogy sold for $13.99 to $17.99 and "where available" tape for $14.99 to 18.99 . That is $50.00 (rounded off) in today's world!
     
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  19. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident

    Location:
    Florida
    The 1990 Reprise boxset.
    What are some thoughts on the mastering and song selection for such an extensive period?
     
  20. shicorp

    shicorp Forum Resident

    Location:
    Austria
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  21. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

    You’re not the only one.

    BTW, ongoing discussions here:

    Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion: "Nice 'n' Easy" - 1960*
    Sinatra album Nice 'n' Easy. Thoughts?
     
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  22. CBackley

    CBackley Chairman of the Bored

  23. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

    SFF: New UMG Vinyl Releases (updated)
     
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  24. shicorp

    shicorp Forum Resident

    Location:
    Austria
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  25. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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