Frank Zappa - The Hot Rat Sessions 6 CD set

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  1. vudicus

    vudicus Analog Dog Thread Starter

  2. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

  3. vudicus

    vudicus Analog Dog Thread Starter

    I am really looking forward to this one.

    Joe and the ZFT are on a roll!
     
  4. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Forum Resident

    I just saw this! It’s gonna be a while before I can afford to get it, but this is a must! This is been a great year for us Zappa fans!
     
  5. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    DETAILS


    Disc 1

    Basic Track Recording Sessions

    TTG Studios, Hollywood, CA

    7-18-69

    Piano: Ian Underwood

    1. Piano Music (Section 1) 2:13
    This is Take 8, an alternate performance of what became known as “Piano Intro to Little House I Used To Live In” found on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich". (c)1969

    1. Piano Music (Section 3) 5:42
    Contains the theme from “Peaches En Regalia” (c)1969, and the Master Take of “Aybe Sea” (c)1969 (Burnt Weeny Sandwich)

    7-28-69

    Guitar: FZ

    Piano: Ian Underwood

    Bass: John Balkin

    Drums: Art Tripp III

    Trumpet: Buzz Gardner

    Sax: Bunk Gardner

    1. Peaches En Regalia (Prototype) (c)1969 (p)2019 5:57
    7-28-69

    Piano: Ian Underwood

    Bass: Shuggy Otis

    Drums: Ron Selico

    1. Peaches En Regalia (Section 1, In Session) (c)1969 (p)2019 10:49
    2. Peaches En Regalia (Section 1, Master Take) (c)1969 (p)2019 2:05
    3. Peaches Jam - Part 1 6:28
    4. Peaches Jam - Part 2 10:30
    Violin: Don “Sugarcane” Harris

    Tack Piano: Johnny Otis

    1. Peaches En Regalia (Section 3, In Session) (c)1969 (p)2019 6:57
    2. Peaches En Regalia (Section 3, Master Take) (c)1969 (p)2019 2:07
    3. Arabesque (In Session) 7:01
    4. Arabesque (Master Take) 6:57
    Released in edited form as “Toads Of The Short Forest” on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" in 1970 (c)1970

    1. Dame Margret's Son To Be A Bride (In Session) 4:30
    This song was re-recorded on 7-30-69 and eventually repurposed as "Lemme Take You To The Beach" first issued on "Studio Tan" in 1978 (c)(p)1978



    Disc 2

    7-29-69

    Basic Track Sessions

    Guitar: FZ

    Violin: Don “Sugarcane” Harris

    Piano, Tack Piano: Ian Underwood

    Bass: Max Bennett

    Drums: John Guerin

    1. It Must Be A Camel (Part 1, In Session) (c)1969 (p)2019 8:22
    2. It Must Be a Camel (Part 1, Master Take) 2:17
    3. It Must Be a Camel (Intercut, In Session) 3:53
    4. It Must Be a Camel (Intercut, Master Take) 4:02
    5. Natasha (In Session) 4:04
    6. Natasha (Master Take) 3:12
    Released as “Little Umbrellas” on "Hot Rats" in 1969. (c)1969

    1. Bognor Regis (Unedited Master) 10:59
    Unreleased Track. Frank re-worked this track over the years, using it as the basics for an early version of "Conehead". In the process, he erased original source material. This mix reflects what survived along with some crafty insertion from a vintage 2-track mix for completion.

    1. Willie The Pimp (In Session) (c)1969 (p)2019 2:20
    2. Willie The Pimp (Unedited Master Take) 15:14
    10.Willie The Pimp (Guitar OD 1) 14:46

    Labeled "Scrambler & Wah-Wah"

    11.Willie The Pimp (Guitar OD 2) 6:18

    Guitar: FZ

    Violin: Don “Sugarcane” Harris



    Disc 3

    Basic Track Sessions

    7-29-69

    Piano: Ian Underwood

    Bass: Max Bennett

    Drums: John Guerin

    1. Transition (Section 1 - In Session) 6:17
    2. Transition (Section 1 - Master Take) 2:25
    3. Transition (Section 2 - Intercut - In Session) 1:50
    4. Transition (Section 2 - Intercut - Master Take) 2:43
    5. Transition (Section 3 - Intercut - In Session) 2:29
    6. Transition (Section 3 - Intercut - Master Take) 2:13
    Released in edited form as “Twenty Small Cigars” on "Chunga’s Revenge" in 1970. (c)1970

    1. Lil’ Clanton Shuffle (Unedited Master) 12:46
    Re-mixed and released in edited form on "The Lost Episodes" in 1998 (c)1998

    7-30-69

    Basic Track Sessions

    Guitar: FZ

    Violin, Vocal: Don “Sugarcane” Harris

    Piano, Organ: Don Preston

    Bass: Roy Estrada

    Drums: Jimmy Carl Black

    1. Directly From My Heart To You (Unedited Master) 10:18
    Released in edited form on “Weasels Ripped My Flesh” in 1970 (c)1970

    1. Another Waltz (Unedited Master) 27:56
    Portions released in edited form as “Little House I Used To Live In” on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" in 1970. (c)1969



    Disc 4

    Basic Track Sessions

    7-30-69

    Guitar: FZ

    Piano, Tack Piano, Organ, Sax: Ian Underwood

    Bass: Max Bennett

    Drums: Paul Humphrey

    1. Dame Margret’s Son To Be A Bride (Remake) 3:54
    Eventually utilized for "Lemme Take You To The Beach" on "Studio Tan" in 1978 (c)1978

    Because of this song getting repurposed later, original tracks were wiped by FZ in favor of new ones. All that's left is the original bass & drums.

    1. Son Of Mr. Green Genes (Take 1) (c)1969 (p)2019 8:16
    2. Son Of Mr. Green Genes (Master Take) 10:47
    3. Big Legs (Unedited Master Take) 32:42
    Released in edited form as "The Gumbo Variations" on "Hot Rats" in 1969 (c)1969

    55:38

    1. It Must Be a Camel (Percussion Tracks) 1:48
    Percussion overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969

    1. Arabesque (Guitar OD Mix) 6:57
    Guitar Overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969

    Released in edited form as “Toads Of The Short Forest” on "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" in 1970 (c)1970

    1. Transition (Full Version) 6:22
    Guitar Overdubs recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969

    Released in edited form as “Twenty Small Cigars” on "Chunga’s Revenge" in 1970. (c)1970

    1. Piano Music (Section 3 - OD Version) 5:41
    Overdubs recorded at TTG Studios, 7-21-69

    Contains the theme from “Peaches En Regalia” (c)1969, and the Master Take of “Aybe Sea” released on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" in 1969. (c)1969



    Disc 5

    From The Vault - Part 1

    Hot Rats

    1987 Digital Re-Mix (c)(p)1987

    Re-Mixed from the original multi-track masters with added material from the original sessions

    Engineer: Bob Stone

    Facility: Utillity Muffin Research Kitchen

    1. Peaches En Regalia 3:39
    2. Willie The Pimp 9:17
    3. Son Of Mr. Green Genes 9:00
    4. Little Umbrellas 3:04
    5. The Gumbo Variations 16:57
    6. It Must Be A Camel 5:15
    7. The Origin Of Hot Rats :35
    1987- FZ with Peter Occhiogrosso

    Source: Cassette

    1. Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #1 1:02
    Source: Vinyl

    1. Peaches En Regalia (Mono Single Master) 3:32
    1969 Mono Mix

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #2 1:01
    Source: Vinyl

    1. Little Umbrellas (1969 Mono Single Master) 3:05
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    55:52

    1. Lil' Clanton Shuffle (1972 Whitney Studios Mix) 12:42
    Studio: Whitney Studios

    Mixed by FZ with Barry Keene

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape



    Disc 6

    From The Vault - Part 2

    1. Little Umbrellas (Cucamonga Version) 2:00
    Source: Acetate

    Recorded at Studio Z; Cucamonga, CA circa 1961-1964

    FZ: Guitar

    Musicians: Undocumented

    1. Little Umbrellas (1969 Mix Outtake) 3:10
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. It Must Be A Camel (1969 Mix Outtake) 5:23
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Son Of Mr. Green Genes (1969 Mix Outtake) 10:39
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. More Of The Story Of Willie The Pimp 1:24
    Voices: FZ, Annie Zannus & Cynthia Dobson

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Willie The Pimp (Vocal Tracks) 2:07
    Voice: Captain Beefheart

    7-29-69 TTG Studios; Hollywood, CA

    1. Willie The Pimp (1969 Quick Mix) 14:29
    Studio: T.T.G. Studios, Hollywood, CA

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Dame Margret's Son To Be A Bride (1969 Quick Mix) 3:46
    Studio: T.T.G. Studios, Hollywood, CA

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #3 :52
    Source: Vinyl

    1. Bognor Regis (1970 Record Plant Mix) 8:11
    Studio: Record Plant, Los Angeles CA 1970

    Engineers: FZ, Stan Agol

    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Peaches En Regalia (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 4:24
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Son Of Mr. Green Genes (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 10:40
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Little Umbrellas (1969 Rhythm Track Mix) 3:11
    Source: 1/4" Analog Tape

    1. Arabesque (Guitar Tracks) 6:57
    Recorded at Sunset Sound Studios, August 1969

    1. Hot Rats Vintage Promotion Ad #4 :59
    Source: Vinyl





    UPSELL PRODUCTS
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      HOT RATS ULTIMATE BUNDLE PREORDER
      $200.00
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      HOT RATS BUNDLE PREORDER
      $125.00
     
  6. Humbuster

    Humbuster Big hat, no cattle

    Woof, Woof and Woof!

    Thank you, Dog! Looks like I gotta get the book and t shirt if I wanna have the CDs.
     
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  7. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    PS.
    There's a "Little Umbrellas" from the Cucamonga days!!!!!!!
    DOUBLE WOW!
     
  8. Humbuster

    Humbuster Big hat, no cattle

    Anyone know what the packaging looks like?

    I never ordered anything from the Zappa site. How's the quality and presentation of their products?
     
  9. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Hendon!!!!

    Location:
    East Bay, Ca
    This is why Im a Zappa fan.
    Screw Halloween. I’ll stream it.
     
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  10. JohnS

    JohnS Forum Resident

    Location:
    London, UK
    I'd like to know more about the Hot Rats Book, eg is it music transcriptions, or a 'the making of...' biog. But the CD tracklisting and details look great.
    The doors to the Zappa vault are really being thrown open these days.
     
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  11. DaveinMA

    DaveinMA Forum Resident

    What, no mask?
     
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  12. dlokazip

    dlokazip Forum Transient

    Location:
    Austin, TX, USA
    As prophesied by many a Zappaphile, "Bognor Regis" is included.
     
  13. Tom H

    Tom H Forum Resident

    Location:
    Kapolei, Hawaii
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  14. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Forum Resident

    Location:
    The Southwest
    Awesome. I’m amazed at how much archival product the Zappa estate is issuing in such a short period of time. At least this looks like a straight up music set without costumes and masks. Still it is a bit costly at $120 for six discs.
     
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  15. dsdu

    dsdu Forum Resident

    Location:
    Santa Cruz, CA
     
  16. geronimo1958

    geronimo1958 Active Member

    Location:
    Spartanburg, SC
    Mucho extra Gumbo. YES!!
     
  17. Rfreeman

    Rfreeman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Lawrenceville, NJ
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  18. MechanicalAnimal6

    MechanicalAnimal6 Forum Resident

    Location:
    United States
    so i could get that 3 cd Orchestra set that came out like 2 or 3 months ago for less than $30, but now double the cd's from 3 to 6 and the price jumps up to $125??
    am i missing something here? i don't need or want the book or shirt, just the 6 cd's. How is the 6 cd set the same ridiculous price as if you add the book and shirt ?
     
  19. DaveinMA

    DaveinMA Forum Resident

    I wonder if it'll show up in the normal retail places at a lesser price like Meat Light & other releases did.
     
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  20. DaveinMA

    DaveinMA Forum Resident

    Didn't the original Orchestral Favorites page have something screwy and got taken down for a while before they fixed it and put it back up?
     
  21. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    Put the 'eye-brows' on that WOW!
     
  22. MechanicalAnimal6

    MechanicalAnimal6 Forum Resident

    Location:
    United States
    not really sure...i've gotten all of the newest zappa releases from amazon. but i just checked and got Orchestral Favorites 3 cd set for only $27.14.
    For this 6 disc set, i'd think it would be no more than $60 at the max then....otherwise it's just price gouging
     
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  23. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

    Location:
    Undisclosed
    I wonder if they are going to release a highlights version as well?
     
  24. JohnS

    JohnS Forum Resident

    Location:
    London, UK
    I see from the Zappa website the book is indeed a hardback job, all about the album.

    The Hot Rats Book Preorder

    So that $125 bundle deal is pretty good, if not a mistake - getting the book and t-shirt free!
    BUT... cheapest postage to the UK for the bundle: $85!!
    (Never mind... but it was fun while it lasted...)
     
  25. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    This looks like a very nice set for mega fans.

    However, the price is pretty high, and making people pay for ephemera they don't want/need just to get the music on physical media sucks. (Not that the Zappas originated the process).
     

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