Genesis Trespass Best Pressings other than UK - Repost

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by the_redgrin, Aug 16, 2020.

  1. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Hi everyone! I was questioning myself which pressings of Trespass by Genesis were ok other than the ultra-expensive Pink Scroll original... Now I just own a Japanese 2nd issue, with OBI and a pretty (relatively) scuffless surface, it's pretty good for the money I payed, but I'd like to own other pressings... Would a German Philips be nice? What about a second UK press? I heard good things about the first US issue, also, please, no digital stuff, this is about vinyl... One last question, is there anyone owning a first Japanese Trespass press? I'm curious about it, it seems almost non-existant and there's one on Discogs for 6k (I truly doubt someone is ever gonna buy it, but is it better than the already premium Pink Scroll?)
     
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  2. Moonchild

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  3. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Oh, looks interesting, any other recommened pressings? Just asking, sometimes people really overprice UK vinyl, even that repress has the usual guy which sells it for a kidney, thanks anyway, everyone seems to be ignoring this thread
     
  4. TLMusic

    TLMusic Musician & record collector

    Yes, the UK pressing with large Mad Hatter labels is a fine alternative to the Pink Scroll originals. Make sure to get a copy with A-2U B-2U matrices, that is the same mastering as the Pink Scrolls.

    The other challenge with Trespass is finding a copy with minimal surface noise. The quiet acoustic music requires it. My best overall copy is a UK second press which sounds very similar to my Pink Scroll, but the 2nd press has less distracting background noise.
     
  5. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    If I get an A-2U B-2U I'll basically get the same mastering? There wasn't Porky/Pecko yet cutting the first press, right? Very interesting info, still, I feel the need of asking, so no other country is viable? Us, Germany, Italy, Japan, Canada are all that bad?
     
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  6. Moonchild

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    I should think so. Later Uk copies do not sound the same, probably made from copy tapes. There is no Porky version of this album.
    I agree with TL Music that most copies have a lot of distracting background noise. I've got a German and a Spanish first and sound absolutely veiled
    and muffled.
    I'd be patient and try to get a NM 72 repress with the scroll matrices from a reputable seller.
    There is also a Classic Records reissue of this title but it costs an arm and a leg.
     
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  7. the_redgrin

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    Than that's gonna be what I'll try, thanks again
     
  8. Mikewest

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    I have the 2nd edition of this, a very clear sounding record with hardly any background noise, wonderful, yes go for this 72 version!
     
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  9. the_redgrin

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    Yes, I'd guess that would be a best Pic. I found an Italian first pressing which is already better than the Japanese one, so for no one I am quite satisfied, but a Repress with the two -2s is on my want list
     
  10. Doug Schiller

    Doug Schiller Senior Member

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    I have the 2016 1/2 speed remix Charisma version and it is one of my best sounding LPs. I was expecting the worst from a relative low budget production but was blown away.
     
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  11. the_redgrin

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    Yeah, those sound nice. Let me inform you that those are remixes tho, Trespass in one of the best ones.
    I am coming to the conclusion that the 1985 CD might be the best version, the right compromise between those remixes and the originals
     
  12. luiscardoso88

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    Earlier today I was about to buy the current reissue, from 2018 but after a horrible experience with the Warner version of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac (which I returned), I decided to leave it at the store. Also felt very, very light for a gatefold.
     
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  13. Miracles can happen, just last month I found a A-2U B-2U Pink Scroll locally for $30
     
  14. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    They also are quite high priced
     
  15. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    How was the condition?
    I once bought a Foxtrot Porky/Pecko pressing for 20€, it was VG at best, but listenable for sure. Synths sound great, but the production itself is miles away from Trespass. Genesis' original pressings might be overhyped.
     
  16. VG+ no spindles, but a couple of scratches.
     
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  17. the_redgrin

    the_redgrin Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Then I'd say that's clearly an awesome find
     
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  18. Mikewest

    Mikewest Forum Resident

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    Weirdly I have a A-2U B-3U , but it sounds brilliant as I have just acquired an original Pink Scroll for £100 ! but theres clicks everywhere so I'm sending it back !
     
  19. Mikewest

    Mikewest Forum Resident

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    I actually bought about 4 copies on eBay and sent them all back , absolute rubbish and Over graded , I finally got one from a charity selling on eBay with a load of other Genesis records for about £70 bargain !
     
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  20. Mister Triscuits

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    No mention yet of the 1972/3 New Zealand hatter label pressing; clearly it is a well kept secret. This was not cut locally but rather produced with the original A-2/B-2 plates imported from UK and formerly used for the UK pink scroll issue. One can only surmise that once UK plants obtained new stampers with which to produce their reissue/s, the first generation stampers were shipped off to the colonies! I was lucky enough to find a near mint copy in Auckland 35 years ago and it is among my most cherished LPs. I did purchase a UK pink scroll a few years back, but sonically it was actually a downgrade (could not match my NZ copy for inky-black silence during the quieter passages) so I moved it on.
     
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  21. Moonchild

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    There is a European Direct Mastering pressing from 1985 on the Virgin Label (red and green) . It is brighter than the original (in a good way) and I think the album benefits from it.
    It is certainly more detailed while retaining a very decent low end. It's my go-to copy these days. Dirt cheap
     
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  22. the_redgrin

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    As of now I am pretty certain the non-remastered CD does the trick.
    It's not pricy, nor hard to find, so it is perfect
     
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  23. scoutbb

    scoutbb Senior Member

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    I just bought one of these from a seller in Sweden for $54.31, including shipping. Supposed to be M-/M according to seller. He said he only played it a few times. Said the cover and record look brand new! Keeping my fingers crossed.
     
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  24. scoutbb

    scoutbb Senior Member

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    I've read several posts in these Trespass threads stating that this album was re-mastered by Kevin Gray, and that there is a Classic Records version.
    I don't think either one is true. Maybe someone can confirm.
     
  25. Ere

    Ere Senior Member

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    There was no Classic Records version of Trespass. In the U.S. it was originally on MCA and the rest of the Gabriel-era albums were on Atco. Which begs the question, were the Classic Genesis titles all remastered from masters or copies from the U.S. series?
     

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