Gotham-Batman Prequel Series on Fox, Fall 2014

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Encuentro, May 28, 2014.

  1. Standoffish

    Standoffish Don't you dare call me an ostrich!

    The LOST pilot was amazing, and probably the best episode(s) of the series.
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  2. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Hollywood, USA
    Naw, the best episode was "Constant," the one which finally explains the time-travel scenarios of the show through Desmond. An amazing episode that explains quite a bit:
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  3. Great opening episode. Lots of potential. Well acted directed and shot.
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  4. kippy

    kippy Well-Known Member

    Chicago, IL, USA
    So.....there were no superheros and no supervillains around when Batman was a kid? They all grew up at the same time? Then all of a sudden the world was filled with superheros and supervillains all approximately the same age?
  5. kippy

    kippy Well-Known Member

    Chicago, IL, USA
    For your consideration of best first episode...

    The Shield
  6. Yes, have you seen any super heroes in your town ?
  7. The Spaceman

    The Spaceman Forum Resident

    It's simple. The "villains" were criminals/law breakers before Batman came on the scene. Batman then comes on the scene with this outrageous persona and the criminals follow suit by adopting personas. I'm assuming the criminals/"villains" are all being shown at various ages. Think of how old the villains are compared to each other in their adopted persona.
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  8. blind_melon1

    blind_melon1 An erotic adventurer of the most deranged kind....

    Easily the most dramatic eating of a sandwich ever captured on film...
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  9. kwadguy

    kwadguy Forum Resident

    Cambridge, MA
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  10. applecakes

    applecakes viva la vinyl

    Toronto, ON
    Tonight's premise is cat woman. Let's hope it's just as good as the pilot.
  11. Lonson

    Lonson An Old Disestablishmentarianismist

    Well, the very young woman playing Selina Kyle is very charismatic. . . I'll bet it's a good episode.
  12. Yeah

    Yeah Well-Known Member

    Falmouth, Ma. USA
    I really like this show. Great episode.
  13. Standoffish

    Standoffish Don't you dare call me an ostrich!

    They're 2 for 2 in my book. I like how they're mixing in a case of the week with larger story arcs. Good stuff so far.
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  14. musicalbeds

    musicalbeds Strange but not a stranger

    Ontario, Canada
    I hope they don't tie their death into something bigger...the randomness of their killing is one of the best things about his mythos, imo.....tying it to something else cancels that out.

    Interesting episode of Gotham last night. For sure they referenced Gordon's future wife, Sarah Essen at one point.
    Barbara Gordon is his first wife, and they either have, or adopt a niece, who is Barbara Batgirl Gordon. In the comics, it's his daughter and then later his niece...DC comics never had great continuity.
    After Barbara his wife leaves him...because of an affair with Sarah in one version...he raises his daughter/niece alone and she becomes Batgirl. Later on in the comics, he marries Sarah Essen. There's more, but you can look that up so I don't spoil it for those unfamiliar with her.

    In the preview of next week's episode, I saw a reference to "CHILL" ...perhaps on a poster, but I know I saw it written somewhere...and Joe Chill is the killer of the Waynes in most stories...some don't mention him by it appears next week we'll meet the Wayne's murderer.
    Fwiw, the only story to name the Joker as their killer is the first Keaton Batman movie...other than that, the Joker has never been part of the mythos that created Batman.
    Lastly, Alan Moore wrote The Killing Joke, a great Batman story that became part of the continuity after Batgirl was beaten and left paralyzed by the later comics she then becomes the wheelchair bound heroine named Oracle, advising the Bat-heros using a computer that could rival anything in NASA.
    But I digress; in the same story, the Joker's origin is told in a vague way, showing him as a failed comedian before he goes crazy.
    In the first Gotham episode, we see a comedian who looks suspiciously like Alan Moore's drawing of that it's possible we'll see the origin of the Joker at one point.
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  15. theoxrox

    theoxrox Forum Resident

    central Wisconsin
    I kind of like the visual style of the show, but that's about all.
  16. Hagstrom

    Hagstrom Forum Resident

    Philadelphia, PA
    It would appear that the Penguin is much older than Bruce Wayne. It also seems Fish Mooney will be a supervillian. She's older than Bruce Wayne.
  17. applecakes

    applecakes viva la vinyl

    Toronto, ON
    Lili Taylor was a nice surprise last night. Glad I didn't see the credits online yesterday ahead of the episode.
  18. xdawg

    xdawg Skating away...........

    Roswell, GA, USA
    I watched episode 1 last night and episode 2 tonight and I'm hooked! I don't regularly watch a lot of TV shows (maybe 5 or 6), but Gotham works for me.
  19. robertawillisjr

    robertawillisjr Music Lover

    Hampton, VA
    I think I'm hooked. Depends on the next few episodes.
  20. Lonson

    Lonson An Old Disestablishmentarianismist

    Liza. . . she looked better with that black hair. Falcone is going to fall hard.
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  21. Indeed they did, by the first episode.

    I know it got talked about a little bit futher up, but the explanation they always offer in the source material is that super villans were a "response" to the heroes that started cropping up.

    I really, really wanted to like tis show, but I just couldn't get into it. It felt like they spent all their energy being dark and foreboding and wagging a finger in everyone's face while saying "HEY- THIS GUY BECOMES THE PENGUIN! THSI IS CATWOMAN! HERE'S YOUNG BRUCE WAYNE AND COMMISIONER GORDON TOGETHER???? THAT'S COOL, RIGHT? LOOK HOW AGGRESSIVE ALFRED IS!" It all feels really forced, when I'd have much preferred the story of a city in decay and the people inhabiting it- which this makes only a thinly veiled attempt at pretending to be.

    Your mileage may vary.

    Also, am I the only person who kept waiting for Leslie Thompkins to show up?
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  22. The Spaceman

    The Spaceman Forum Resident

    The difference is, many of Batman's rouge's gallery were active criminals prior to his coming onto the scene. They just adopted their colorful personas once Batman came on the scene for a variety of reasons. They were active during the time frame we're seeing them. Clark Kent hooking up with Lois Lane while still in Smallville? Should not have ever happened.
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  23. robertawillisjr

    robertawillisjr Music Lover

    Hampton, VA
  24. I actually love it. Like how the characters are developing.
  25. davenav

    davenav High Plain Grifter

    Brooklyn, USA
    It's actually quite good.

    Looks like the naysayers should have waited to see it first, before spouting off! :laugh:

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