Grateful Dead on Vinyl: Comparing Pressings

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Wingtip, Dec 20, 2020.

  1. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    It's nice to have an objective opinion... but I just can't figure out why you didn't listen to that "Hey Jude" and think, hot damn this is a must have! ;)

    Wait till you get to 3.2.69... 4th night and definitely NO tiredness there...
     
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  2. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    I’d say maybe give That’s It for the Other One and New Potato Caboose from 3/1/69 a second listen before writing off 3/1 (before it gets more expensive). It’s a sentimental favorite because other than the Live/Dead portions of 2/27 it was by years the first show I heard from that run and an array tape in my collection, but I do think that 2/27 and 2/28 are probable a bit stronger overall.

    As for 12/10/71, I am happy to have it on CD as part of the box, but it is not as essential a show as most of those they’ve picked as vinyl releases. I did pick up the 10/18/72 Fox 2-LP set, and think that’s more essential.
     
  3. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Okidoke... I will make a point to check those out, thanks! :)
     
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  4. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Thank you Sir, will do!
     
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  5. ODShowtime

    ODShowtime Swirl Life

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    I grabbed Veneta right away due to it being an all-time favorite. Scooped up E72 Vol 2 later at retail before things went nuts. I should play that more often...
     
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  6. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    As is not unusual, I agree with Rob's assessment here.
     
  7. dminches

    dminches Forum Resident

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    No, it is not an iconic show.
     
  8. Crosseyed

    Crosseyed help I'm a rock

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    Strongly disagree good sir. The second set is amazing and was a prophetic template for the Europe 72 tour. The vinyl sounds beautiful.
     
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  9. jewelsnbinoculars

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    he didn’t say it’s not a great show, he said it’s not iconic, and it’s not. ask 1o serious dead heads to list their top ten shows and my guess is this wouldn’t come up. plenty of releases have been iconic, and plenty other great shows have been released which are not. not a value judgement, just a consideration of shows that have a lot of mythology and allure around them, based on the playing, cultural moment, band history or otherwise, and have thus grown iconic. this really isn’t one of those shows. the Saint of Circumstance release of 91 show is phenomenal, I’d recommend any fan have it on vinyl. that said, it’s not iconic like Wake Up to Find Out, featuring Branford Marsalis.
     
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  10. dminches

    dminches Forum Resident

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    Well said. I really like 12/10/71. But, the show has been in circulation for decades and no one really ever talks about it. I have enjoyed revisiting it when the box set came out but there are at least 4 shows from set that I find more interesting.
     
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  11. Crosseyed

    Crosseyed help I'm a rock

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    12/10/71 has always been iconic to me. I've listened to this special show for over 35 years on various hissy fm cassettes. And yes many heads did not talk about it but that doesn't mean sh_t. It's a dark horse and I love dark horses.

    Anyways I totally respect everyone's opinion and I'm simply stating mine as well. Btw I was at the saint of circumstance show at Giant's Stadium and don't consider it nearly as iconic & have zero interest in having that one on vinyl (I do have the box set).
     
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  12. katstep

    katstep Professional Cat Herder

    For what it's worth, many of my "iconic" shows differ from the consensus of iconic. 11/14/71 is one of my most listened to shows, but it never gets mentioned. Iconic is in the eye of the beholder. Or is that ear?
     
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  13. jewelsnbinoculars

    jewelsnbinoculars Forum Resident

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    No one is saying that these are bad shows. No one is saying they are not even great shows. But up against something like Fillmore 69, Cornell 77, or Oregon 72, they cannot be said to be “iconic” - not in any dictionary based definition of the word, a word which a poster used in part to inquire about whether to purchase the show. Saying you think it is worth it because it kicks ass is totally fine, but iconic, again, it clearly is not. Iconic has a definition, of which “underrated” and “dark horse” do not play a part. Iconic means well known, well established, not only highly regarded but widely known to be. Not “eye of the beholder” but in the eyes of most who are knowledgeable and informed. The show in question, which is awesome and has been called a great pressing, does not fit that bill when we are talking about a band with a large list of far more widely, well regarded shows, be they regarded for the right reasons or otherwise. 5/8/77 is iconic, though many have suggested 5/9/77 to be the better show.

    De Niro in Goodfellas and Raging Bull is widely regarded as iconic in those roles. De Niro in A Bronx Tale is a good role, but is not considered iconic.
     
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  14. Crosseyed

    Crosseyed help I'm a rock

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    I get what you are saying and it's all good.
     
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