Has James Holzhauer broken "Jeopardy!"?

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  1. tmoore

    tmoore Forum Resident

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    I remember Jennings being in jeopardy of losing much more often -- he often needed a correct answer in Final Jeopardy to shut out the opponents. I don't remember Jennings always being "so" far ahead in each game, either. The numbers back that up. His average win haul was much less than James's (so far).
     
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  2. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

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    true but that speaks to James style of going and betting on the daily doubles....which can be dangerous
     
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  3. JAuz

    JAuz Forum Resident

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    If Ken Jennings were to play now, I wonder if he would select the most expensive clues first. Wasn't he jumping around the board in those games with Watson?

    Perhaps a Jennings, Holzhauer plus another former chamption match is already in the works. That'd probably get some great ratings.
     
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  4. beccabear67

    beccabear67 Musical omnivore.

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    Could he be proof of aliens among us? :cool:
     
  5. Jack White

    Jack White Senior Member

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    There was an 'All Star Tournament' which aired this season. Although I like Jennings more than Rutter, I think that Brad Rutter is a slightly better player and that Larissa Kelly is better than both.

    I think what will be interesting is whether players in next season's shows (this season is almost over) - players who have seen the Holzhauer episodes and have analyzed his style of play - start to emulate him.
     
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  6. mrjinks

    mrjinks Optimistically Challenged

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    Yeah, there was one episode recently (in James' run) where he was doing his usual "from the bottom up" technique and then one of his opponents got a Daily Double. It was pretty apparent, even if you'd only seen James in that one game (like his opponent), that you were going to need to bet big to have a chance. The Daily Double was somewhere in the middle of the board (not one of the two bottom rows) and the guy might have had a chance to stay close if he bet it all. But no, he opted for a very minor bet and then solved the (easy) clue and it didn't help him much at all...

    I suspect people may handle things like that differently in future seasons.
     
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  7. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    Seems like they are putting the daily doubles in the big money now so he'll pick it early and have nothing to double. This has happened last two night.
     
  8. Tim S

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    I think they'll emulate the strategy - but it won't matter much if they can't nail every answer like he can.
     
  9. Andy Dursin

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    To put things in context (and also because I have fuzzy memories about Jennings' specific wins), I found this interesting 2015 article on how Jennings' run "was never going to be equaled," with some stats about his winnings. Even if James doesn't get there he's already solidified his place in the show's history since he's made so much $$ faster than Jennings did:

    Why Ken Jennings’s ‘Jeopardy!’ Streak Is Nearly Impossible To Break

    And more stats on Jennings:

    Ken Jennings' Final Statistics – The Jeopardy! Fan

    Games Played: 75
    Total Winnings: $2,522,700
    Career Batting Average: 0.597
    Triple Stumpers Average: 5.45 (per game)
    Unrevealed Clues Average: 0.48 (per game)

    High Game: $75,000 (July 23rd)
    Low Game: $8,799 (November 30th)
    Average Game: $33,727

    Correct Responses: 2,693 (including Final Jeopardy)
    Incorrect Responses: 263 (including Final Jeopardy)
    Unforced Errors: 212 (incorrect answer after a buzz-in)
    Most Number of Correct Answers, One Game: 45 (July 20th and 23rd)
    Fewest Number of Correct Answers: One Game: 26 (June 7th, June 28th, October 26th)

    Times First In: (Not Including DDs): 2605
    Times First In %age: 61.45% (of all clues read)

    Rebounds: 94
    Rebound %age: 41.05% (Times rebounded out of all rebound opportunities)
     
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  10. Tim S

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    Jeopardy doesn't change how things are placed on the board for any reason - let alone to try to intentionally put a specific player at a disadvantage.

    If it has happened the last two nights, then that is totally statistically normal. Consider every other daily double that's come up when he's been a contestant - random, and that's why you don't remember a thing about any of those - it's only when a couple of seeming outliers happen we all do "aha!"
     
  11. Al Kuenster

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    First you have to beat James on the buzzer which I have not seen many do.
     
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  12. Hymie the Robot

    Hymie the Robot Forum Resident

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    It certainly didn't matter and he crushed them...
     
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  13. Quakerism

    Quakerism Serial number 141467.

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    As long as Holzhauer remains interested in the game, he will be difficult to beat. One key to his success is his focus which is born out of intense obsessive interest in wagering and winning. If he becomes bored with the process and begins thinking about other avenues to explore, his run might end perhaps prematurely of his own volition. Ironically, the close call he experienced perhaps gave him the endorphin and/or serotonin and/or dopamine rush needed to reinvigorate his interest in the Jeopardy game which he simply uses as a vehicle for satisfying his needs. This “boredom” factor is indeed his Achilles heel.
     
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  14. beccabear67

    beccabear67 Musical omnivore.

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    And I've also seen him not buzz in where he doesn't know something, so he's not just an automatic clicker. I'd say he is the closest to a Jeopardy-winning machine there has been without being a Rain Man type savant. He has probably learned from observing an earlier contestant who started at the bottom amounts as well.
     
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  15. the pope ondine

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    I agree, and it could be a subtle enough thing that slows him down by a fraction of a second...I don't think he'd consciously throw one but maybe subconsciously. jeopardy is torn, great ratings when this happens but he's raking it in
     
  16. Vanguardsman

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    If these games have all been in the can since February how come we don't know the outcome? Zero leakers? Hard to believe.
     
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  17. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

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    jeopardy spoilers? I didn't know that was a thing
     
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  18. Tim S

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    No one knows Alex's future, but I'm glad he's around to see James do his thing.
     
  19. Larry Mc

    Larry Mc Forum Dude

    It's about having nerves of steal. I play poker and their are people that don't let the cards or the other players
    influence their confidence, and they usually win.
    He probably intimidates other players and they are too cautious to make quick decisions so they are slower
    with the buzzer and not as sharp mentally. He's got them running scared, you can't win that way. I don't
    watch Jeopardy much anymore, it makes me feel dumb..lol:)
     
  20. Larry Mc

    Larry Mc Forum Dude

    Savant Syndrome
     
  21. Jack White

    Jack White Senior Member

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    Jeopardy has changed its rules - no more 'shout outs' or personal messages are allowed on the Final Jeopardy answers.
     
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  22. daca

    daca Currently on Double Secret Probation

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    Season 35 is complete, and they are in the can until September. How it is possible between the losing contestants, audience members, crew, and other potential people in the studio to keep this completely under wraps???

    This is ‘Manhattan Project’ type secrecy.
     
  23. mrjinks

    mrjinks Optimistically Challenged

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    Since when? In the middle of James' current run? :confused:
     
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  24. Veggie Boy

    Veggie Boy still trudgin'

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    Didn't Alex mention within the last couple shows that the Teachers Tournament starts next week? Does that signal the end of the season this week? and if so does James' run carry over to next season?
     
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  25. mavisgold

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    Rules Change: Shout-Outs No Longer Allowed In Final Jeopardy! – The Jeopardy! Fan


    James Holzhauer, on his Facebook page, has announced that shoutouts will no longer be allowed in Final Jeopardy, effective April 29.

    Holzhauer said, “Tragic news! The end of a Jeopardy era is upon us on Monday…as the show’s producers have informed me that they’re no longer allowing personal messages in Final Jeopardy. No more shout outs!”

    It is yet to be seen what the producers will do if a contestant attempts to defy them and give a shoutout anyway.

    Many viewers, even some commenters here at The Jeopardy! Fan, have found the constant shoutouts during Final Jeopardy! over the past few months to be bordering on ridiculous, and while it was fun in moderation, I’m glad to see this practice stopped. (It certainly will make it easier on transcribing for the sake of the recap!)




    Jeopardy! - Wikipedia !

    Final Jeopardy!
    The Final Jeopardy! round features a single clue. At the end of the Double Jeopardy! round, the host announces the Final Jeopardy! category, and a commercial break follows. During the break, barriers are placed between the contestant lecterns, and each contestant makes a final wager; they may wager any amount of their earnings, but may not wager certain numbers with inappropriate connotations (69, 666, and 1488 are among the forbidden wagers, though 420 is allowed
     
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