Help - I fell asleep with the record playing - does the runout groove damage a stylus?

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  1. RubenH

    RubenH Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Couldn't find a thread on this, although I'm sure this happens a lot.

    Was listening on the couch to the latest Pearl Jam last night at about 11 pm, and next thing I know, it's 4 am.

    The runout is completely silent, so I wonder if any wear on the AT440lmb stylus would be even less than 5

    hours of regular "play."

    And yes, I will likely have to spring for one of those devices that automatically lifts the tonearm at a side's end.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. Phil Tate

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    It'll be absolutely fine.
     
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  3. AlmostHeavenWV

    AlmostHeavenWV Forum Resident

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    The latest Pearl Jam is that boring?
     
  4. May I direct you to Robert Johnson's ' Phonograph Blues ' for more about this subject?
     
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  5. eflatminor

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    Damage? No. Wear, sure, but minor. There's not a lot going on in the horizontal or vertical in the run out. Still it does wear on the stylus, but not so much I would worry about it.

    If you want that lifter, here's a link: LITTLE FWEND
     
  6. jimtek

    jimtek Forum Resident

    Where I went to college in the late 70's, they had a jazz and classical radio station on campus. One of the DJ's left the studio and the door locked behind him and he couldn't get back in and the record ran all night in the inner grove.
     
  7. dsdu

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    Thank goodness it wasn't Sgt. Pepper.
     
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  8. vinylontubes

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    Look, what's done is done. Any use of the stylus will add wear. But the stylus is running through a silent groove, so the least amount of wear is going to happen. This isn't something to worry about. You're worried about what? That you'll have to buy a new stylus 5 hours earlier?
     
  9. Chemguy

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    Nah. Enjoy your nap today.
     
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  10. zphage

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    Depends on the color of the vinyl;)
     
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  11. DK Pete

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    No, unless there's it's a weird pressing with a noisy runout groove. I've found this with a number of new pressings over the years; the overall album will play fine...once the stylus reaches the runout groove-even though it *looks* okay-it sounds like sandpaper.
     
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  12. 99thfloor

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    I'd only be worried if it was a Jamaican pressing, since they invaribly will have an off-center label partly covering the run out grooves - but then you wouldn't have been able to sleep through it. :D

    On a relaled note, I have on more than one occation been away on a trip, sometimes as long as a week, and come home to find the turntable running! (Not with the needle on a record though). You see I used to have this idea to not turn it off between records during a listening session to save on the motor (as I figured much of the wear is from the start up). But sometimes those sessions got interrupted, with the platter still running then, so much for saving on wear... :oops:
     
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  13. RubenH

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    That final 3rd side is, let's just say, somewhat subdued. I had side one on, but was really beat.
     
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  14. RubenH

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    Interesting device. A bit pricey, so I may just have to put a timer on my phone every time I listen to LPs at night!
     
  15. RubenH

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    And ... ??
     
  16. RubenH

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    If it had been, I wouldn't have created this thread :laugh:
     
  17. RubenH

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    Good point; I figure the actual rotational (not angular) speed is least at the center, so even less wear than in the normal area of the LP.

    One way of looking at this is that just "listened" to John Cage's 4'33" about 70 times.
     
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  18. Synthfreek

    Synthfreek I’m a ray of sunshine & bastion of positivity

    It's because all the threads on this are in the hardware section.
     
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  19. RubenH

    RubenH Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    It actually was a very enjoyable nap, but for a moment I thought it might have been a very expen$ive nap !
     
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  20. RubenH

    RubenH Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ah, good point.
    If a Gort sees this, pls feel free to recategorize.
     
  21. RubenH

    RubenH Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've done that type of "Too smart by a half" thing more than once...
     
  22. PinkIsTheSky

    PinkIsTheSky Old Blues Man

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    I had this issue, then I finely wised up and got a TT with auto lift/return.

    At this point in my music career, I can sacrifice whatever negligible sound difference there may be from a completely manual one.
     

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