Help me decide. Would you trade a recapped Marantz 2245 for Thiel 3.5s?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Bananas&blow, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:00 PM.

  1. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    Hello,
    I thought this might be a fun exercise. I'm looking to sell my Marantz 2245 pictured below. I have an asking price of $575 on CL locally. I got offered a trade for some Thiel 3.5s. Owner has no idea what year. They are the version with the external bass cross-over. They could be as old as 1989 from what I've read so far.

    I don't need speakers but I'm growing increasingly anxious to try a new pair from my B&W CDM 7se's. After comparing, either the Thiels or the B&W's will be hitting the road.

    The Marantz is sexy, but my Yamaha A-s801 sounds better.

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  2. jfine

    jfine Forum Resident

    If that's an original blackface 70's marantz, I'd keep it. Not sure the 2245's came that way.
     
  3. Fruff76

    Fruff76 Forum Resident

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    I don’t know anything about it, or the Thiels, but I’d keep the Marantz if it were me.
     
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  4. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    It's not an original blackface, I bought the faceplate from eBay. Don't think they came that way.
     
  5. mjcmt

    mjcmt Forum Resident

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  6. Helom

    Helom Forum Resident

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    The Thiels would be my choice if they're in comparable shape. They retailed for $2450 in 89'.
     
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  7. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    2 no's and 2 yes. Perfecto! Let's close the thread!
     
  8. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    They look to be in excellent shape. He claims his audiophile buddies claim they are worth $600-$700. Anyone ever own these puppies? Down the rabbit hole I will go looking for a more powerful amp. Sigh.
     
  9. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    Going to his house in a few hours. Still time to vote!
     
  10. pdxway

    pdxway Forum Resident

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    Do you think you can sell the speaker easier than the Marantz? 30 years old speakers might not worth much as compared to your Marantz....
     
  11. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    True but the speakers might only be 20 years old. The Thiels are trending down in value while the Marantz is trending up in value.
     
  12. heathen

    heathen Forum Resident

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    Keep the Marantz.
     
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  13. h46e55x

    h46e55x Well-Known Member

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    At 20-30 years the speakers could need to be refreshed. If the Thiel 3.5s were something you always wanted then I would go for it. But if it was just a possible speaker option and one your not very familiar with, I would pass.
     
  14. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    I feel like you guys are not taking into account the look on my wife's face when I walk in the door with "MORE SPEAKERS?!?!!??" I mean that's gotta be worth something right?
     
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  15. LitHum05

    LitHum05 El Disco es Cultura

    I’d be persuaded to pay you the $500 for the Marantz.
     
  16. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 District Champ

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    If you have a Yamaha you like better, no need for the Marantz. Trade.
     
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  17. boboquisp

    boboquisp Karma 2004 - 2019

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    I'd keep the Marantz, or actually sell it for cash money. Don't you like the B&W?
     
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  18. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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  19. Guitarded

    Guitarded Forum Resident

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    Check them out. If they are clean and functional I would Trade them.

    That's half the fun of Vintage gear. It usually leads to more / different vintage gear!
     
  20. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    Yes I do like them. I have 3 systems and all 3 have B&W speakers. I'm trying to branch out.
     
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  21. h46e55x

    h46e55x Well-Known Member

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    Well if that is a consideration, I would suggest something from the Tannoy Prestige Gold Reference line. They are big beautiful wood cabinets and with pricing starting at "used car" your wife should be very impressed. I know mine was.

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  22. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow Where the wind don't blow so strange. Thread Starter

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    I'll trade you the Marantz and my largely incomplete Genesis record collection for them.
     
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  23. Glmoneydawg

    Glmoneydawg Forum Resident

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    If you need more justification....you can likely be buried in them:)
     
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  24. Guitarded

    Guitarded Forum Resident

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    '...and a lightly used sombrero.'
     
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  25. Warren Jarrett

    Warren Jarrett Audio Note (UK) dealer in SoCal/LA-OC

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    I have owned Marantz recievers and Thiel CS3.5 speakers. I like Thiel speakers SO MUCH that I own 4 pair. I just listened to my 3.5 recently, and my friends and I were amazed how wonderful they sound. They needed their woofers re-foamed a few years ago, which I did locally by an electronics store.

    The Marantz is beautiful and rarely on the market for resale. EVERYBODY keeps their's for its looks, but its sound is nothing special. The Thiels are also very good looking AND they are one of the best sounding speakers ever made. They are often sold and resold, so their resale value is shockingly low. If your reason is to upgrade sound, dump the Marantz and get a pair of Thiel 3.5 ... the equalizer is VERY good, and does its job of providing VERY low and VERY high quality bass, with little (but some) effect on the mids and highs.

    If you decide to own a pair of Thiel speakers, any model, you will need an amplifier that is VERY smooth and romantic in the upper midrange, for "pure" non-electronic sounding female vocals. Tube amps generally sound good with them, but the only solid state amps I have found that are spot-on with the CS3.5 are 20+ year old Classe amps with the DR model number (DR-8,-9, -200, etc) or any Mark Levinson.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019 at 8:29 PM
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