Homeland: New show on Showtime

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by kwadguy, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Forum Resident

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    At least one of the leads should have been liquidated (love that word). Saul's character was utterly emasculated as the final season wore on. By the end he was a blithering idiot, with a truckload of phlegm obstructing his vocal cords. His quote did strike me as odd, given that it was likely supplied by a far-left Hollywood hack. So maybe it was layered in irony.
     
  2. antonkk

    antonkk Senior Member

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    Well, I just read an interview with Alex Gansa and yes, he wears his politics on his sleeve (wouldn't go further because of the forum rules).


    ‘Homeland’ Series Finale: Co-Creator Alex Gansa On The Final Twist, Potential Revival, Claire Danes, Mandy Patinkin & The Story They Never Got To Tell
     
  3. antonkk

    antonkk Senior Member

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    A funny one from heavy.com

    "From double agent Aldrich Ames to Gorbachev’s detente, Saul’s asset is supposed to be in a position to know pretty much everything the Russians were up to in the past 30-plus years. How would an interpreter be in a position to know these things? She wouldn’t be needed to interpret what Russians say to Russians, and that’s likely how they’d be talking about these things, right? Also, since the Russians know the spy likely came out of Saul’s East Berlin days, how hard would it be for the Russians to narrow the spy down to her?"
     
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  4. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Forum Resident

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    Verrrry interesting.

    ... the idea for Carrie writing a book didn’t come until 24 hours before we shot those scenes.

    ... Mandy really advocated, like vehemently advocated, for a hopeful ending.
     
  5. antonkk

    antonkk Senior Member

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    Well, Carrie taking place of a person she sacrificed is quite a strong ending in terms of dramaturgy and a sort of redemption. I would like it a lot if Danes' acting was as great as the plot demanded. It wasn't sadly. She delivered several superb performances throughout the series only to sleepwalk through the grand finale maybe shedding a few tears.
     
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  6. Maranatha5585

    Maranatha5585 Forum Resident

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    I was an avid fan and viewer, however this continually growing idea of making fans
    wait a year, and more to continue.. Forget it! They dropped the ball, did not work for me.
    It was so good at one point. Sad, and a missed opportunity I feel.
     
  7. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    They’re essentially making 8 to 12 hour-long movies with each season. I think it’s damned impressive what gets pulled off in a year or 18 months.
     
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  8. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Forum Resident

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    Every show is like that. I had to rewatch seasons 1, 2 of Babylon Berlin from 2-3 years ago before starting season 3.

    On the other hand, I just jumped straight into season 7 of Engrenages/Spiral without doing a refresher, and it was a bit challenging.
     
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  9. antonkk

    antonkk Senior Member

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    Sure it's not a sitcom. High budget show mostly shot overseas. Takes a year to make each season.
     
  10. gkella

    gkella Let there be songs to fill the air

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    I have been watching this series on Netflix for the past couple of months.
    Just starting season six.
    Is it just me or has the show lost its way.
    I think I’m done...
     
  11. DLD

    DLD Senior Member

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    My advice, watch the last cupla episodes of Season 7 and all of the VERY good Season 8. Don't worry about not knowing what's going on in S7. S8 is its own story but does have a key holdover element from S7. I thought the show lost its way after S2 and got back on firmer footing in S7 & especially S8. Loved the series finale episode (9.5* on IMDB)
     
  12. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Forum Resident

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    Don't waste your time. Go to Fauda instead.
     
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  13. Blair G.

    Blair G. Senior Member

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    Agreed, based on Season 6, worst story line so far and seeing Quinn’s character struggle was hard to watch.
    And Clare Danes constantly on the verge of tears
    But I’ll watch the last 2 seasons hoping for a bounce back
     
  14. gkella

    gkella Let there be songs to fill the air

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    I asked my daughters opinion as she watched the last two seasons.
    If she is correct..you will be disappointed..
     
  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Seeker of Truth

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    Watching S5 - hard to say where it's going now.
     
  16. hbbfam

    hbbfam Forum Resident

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    100% on rotten. Never heard of this one before. Thanks!
     
  17. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Seen seasons 1-5... what’s the rest of the seasons like ?
     
  18. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member Thread Starter

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    When you see Quinn's character come back from the super secret Government hospital where they manage to make him better than new and with the strength of three men and a computer-driven AI-augmented brain is pretty cool. Think Six Million Dollar man cool. Like, really cool. Keep watching to get to that, at least.
     
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  19. '05Train

    '05Train Forum Resident

    The best thing the show did was get rid of Brody, and dangit that should have happened sooner. I wanted to spend a lot more time with Peter Quinn, and my god Rupert Friend should have won several Emmys for his portrayal, particularly in Season 6.

    The finale is good, but I agree with the posters above that I got sick of seeing Carrie constantly on the verge of tears, and Saul's arc makes no sense. He's clearly a superspy, but he's completely emasculated.

    At least neither of them is a lumberjack.
     
  20. DLD

    DLD Senior Member

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    Season 3, a trainwreck. The Dana story line went on endlessly and, who cared about her anyway? I agree, resolve the Brody storyline in S2 and build on Quinn, the middle east and or Russia. I do think the showrunner and writers redeemed themselves in the last season tho.
     
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  21. '05Train

    '05Train Forum Resident

    Ohgoshyes. I'd forgotten about the awful Dana stuff.

    Brody's story could have been wrapped up in a season had they jettisoned all of the Brody Family Drama. Peter was a far more compelling character, and his arc through the story is a thing of terrible beauty. I can't go on enough about how powerful Rupert Friend was in that role.
     
  22. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    I thought season 6-8 were great.

    Those seasons were all 4.6/5 on google reviews with thousands of ratings.
     
  23. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    I’ll buy the complete 1-8 dvd box when it’s made available.

    Thx!
     
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  24. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    My 2 real life sources for tv show recommendations loved seasons 6-8. My friend who introduced me to Banshee. And my mom.
     
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  25. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Yeah! Banshee. I was recommended that via my Deadwood... what next thread. Really enjoyed banshee.

    With Homeland ., i really liked season 1-3 thought 4&5 were ok( got rid of my 1-5 box a couple of years ago).. hence me asking about season 6/7/8.
     

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