How To Tell If Your Beatles Stereo Box Is A Fake

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  1. videoman

    videoman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Lake Tahoe, NV
    No. They were in the right boxes.

    A couple of other things I noticed that may or may not be like yours (or like the real deals):

    No embossed lettering on The White Album. Just "The Beatles" written in gray lettering. And it doesn't slip in and out of the outer case very easiliy.

    Black lettering over the dark part of the Apple logo on the discs is unreadable.

    No track listings on the Past Master discs.
     
  2. swvcc

    swvcc Active Member

    Location:
    KY
    Yes.
     
  3. Tony Plachy

    Tony Plachy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pleasantville, NY
    :righton: :righton: :righton: :righton:

    Most B&M's are selling these around $200. To save around $100 people are willing to risk a fake, what sense does that make?
     
  4. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    Amazon has (or had) them this morning for $130/each shipped. That's directly from Amazon, so they are assuredly genuine.
     
  5. Tony Plachy

    Tony Plachy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pleasantville, NY
    Or even if they are not genuine, Amazon will refund your money.
     
  6. I actually picked up a pile of the Chinese knock-off remasters in Vietnam last year for around US$2 each, knowing they were fake.

    I've given most of them away but I had "Revolver" on my desk just now and noticed all the spelling errors. Paul McCarimy!
     
  7. Turbo2k

    Turbo2k Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sweden
    Just a warning. Don't buy from the Amazon marketplace seller LA Multimedia. I just got a fake stereo box set from them. They have agreed to a refund. Some of the typos was hilarious though, so alteast I got a laugh out of it.
     
  8. rock76

    rock76 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Northwest MEX
    Are there fake copies of the individual cds circulating? (on ebay, amazon, etc.)
    I'm a little cautious about buying from some Chinese sellers.
     
  9. Turbo2k

    Turbo2k Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sweden
    I just heard back from Amazon and they say I need a written proof from the manufacturer that it is a fake. Does anyone know who I should contact to get a written confirmation like that?
    Has any of you been asked this?
     
  10. Turbo2k

    Turbo2k Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sweden
    Has there ever been an official statement from official sources about the counterfeits?
     
  11. sathvyre

    sathvyre formerly known as ABBAmaniac

    Location:
    Europe
    I just bought a fake stereo box from a private person through an internet auction !!!
    What shall I do ??? I tried to contact him - no response !!!
    I contacted other people who bought fake stereo boxes from the same seller some months ago...I don't know what to do...I don't want a counterfeit box with spelling errors and bad printing quality in my collection !!!
     
  12. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    If you bought it via ebay? Have you paid via Paypal? Then put in a claim. You'll get your money back. As long as you used Paypal you are covered.

    The sooner you do it the better so as soon as you read this thread put the claim in! :)

    If you paid via credit card but not paypal you can try calling your credit card provider but you won't have to do that if you used paypal to pay for it.
     
  13. sathvyre

    sathvyre formerly known as ABBAmaniac

    Location:
    Europe
    Thank you for reply. I didn't pay through Paypal, cause the seller didn't offer a PayPal account...I paid through regular bank transfer instead...
    I checked many sources and got in contact with other buyers who bought counterfeits from exactly the same seller this year...there also was a trial this year (as I found out when I researched), but the seller seems to have a very good advocate and became acquitted...very strange...
    Other buyers told me that they sent their fake boxes to EMI as a proof of existence...maybe I have to talk to my bank first, then inform EMI and maybe I have to make a report at my local police office...
     
  14. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    I would tell the seller that if he doesn't refund the money you'll file a police report. He might give your money back.

    Good luck. I hope you get your money back.
     
  15. HGN2001

    HGN2001 Mystery Picture Member

    I went through this with a seller of a counterfeit Herb Alpert BEYOND. The seller refused to admit it was a fake and refused a refund. Fortunately I DID use PayPal, submitted evidence of the fakeness, and was awarded my funds.

    But I had threatened all kinds of legal action, reporting to the RIAA - nothing shook this seller.

    But I had the last laugh - in order to justify the refund, PayPal had me submit the info about mailing the package back. But the seller stupidly wouldn't provide me with a correct address, so the thing came back to me THREE TIMES. I finally gave up and kept it - and the money.

    But now I see the seller is back on eBay, using the same old handle, and selling the same counterfeit item - and still getting $80+ n for it!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Herb-Alpert...170901642534?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item27ca881d26

    Harry
     
  16. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    I had a seller on eBay try that on me once. He sold me some crap electronics--not what was described. I tried to return them. He ignored me. I got PayPal involved and he said "sure, send them to this address..." So I sent them...and they eventually got returned as undeliverable.

    I showed the evidence to PayPal that I'd shipped to the address he'd provided and they refunded my money and I got to keep the stuff...
     
  17. sathvyre

    sathvyre formerly known as ABBAmaniac

    Location:
    Europe
    I wrote many mails to him, telling him to inform EMI and the police etc...no reply.
    As I know now, he sells the fake boxes since around one year on different places in the internet and he's got trouble in the past, but he always sell the fake boxes over and over again...why is there no way to stop him ??? EMI is a big record company and they know his name (other buyers gave the seller's name and address to EMI) but nothing has happened...very strange...
    I will ask eBay about a possible money-back option. As I didn't pay through Paypal, but by regular bank transfer, it will be very hard I think...
     
  18. bresna

    bresna Forum Resident

    Location:
    York, Maine
    That's strictly against eBay rules. You cannot sell on eBay and refuse to accept PayPal. Contact eBay and they'll boot him off for it.
     
  19. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Exactly. I think you can still report it being a fake after the auction has ended as well.
     
  20. ridernyc

    ridernyc Forum Resident

    Location:
    Florida, USA
    Don't want to rub salt int he wounds,but highly counterfeited item + bank transfer is basically a guarantee of fraud.

    Not sure you are going to be able to do anything, I'm sure EMI and the the appropriate people know and I'm sure somewhere maybe years down the line they will pop on this guy and bust him, but that won't do much to help you.

    Lesson learned.
     
  21. ridernyc

    ridernyc Forum Resident

    Location:
    Florida, USA
    That has not been a rule on eBay for about 4 years now. They tried to force paypal for a few months and the class actions started and they backed off.
     
  22. sgb

    sgb Senior Member

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    Mine is definitely a counterfeit — purchased in 2009 — but what consolation I have is that in comparing the actual disks to a friend's genuine copy, the sound is identical. Glad I saved the money, in the long run.
     
  23. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

    Location:
    Winchester, UK
    Really? You would rather have a cheaper, pirated and fraudulently sold copy than the real deal? Better to just download, at least the fraudsters aren't directly benefiting then.

    Tim
     
  24. sgb

    sgb Senior Member

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    No, not really, but it is what it is & I didn't know it was a fake until it was too late to take action. Can't afford to replace it either.
     
  25. Troy

    Troy New Member

    Hi guys and gals. Bumping this thread. I recently came across this awful news about the fake box sets and as helpful as some of the info on here has been, it's all still a little sketchy. I think someone needs to go through every album and give a detailed list of what each one 'should' look like. Rather than saying "if there's this wrong here or that there". I would do it, however I think I too have a fake European box set. But it's not like anything anyone else has described. Hence why an album by album description of what should be there would be helpful.
    What I have done however (should it be of any use) is written down every piece of info from the centres of each album from my set.

    Before I list them though I will say the only two things that raise my suspicions are the fact that non of my albums have the vids on. Something I brushed off thinking well theres a DVD with them all on, so why duplicate them. I assumed that was the way it was. The second issue was; when I placed With The Beatles in to my computer to rip it. The tracks were in a completely different order to the album sleeve (can anyone confirm this happening to them?).

    Ok so manufacturing info;
    Please Please Me: ifpi L573 / 3824162 / IFPI 9746 / A970140-01
    With The Beatles: ifpi L573 / 3824202 / IFPI 9730 / A970147-01
    A Hard Days Night: ifpi L573 / 3824132 / IFPI 9744 / A970136-01
    Beatles For Sale: ifpi L573 / 3824142 / IFPI 9727 / A970135-01
    Help!: ifpi L573 / 3824152 / IFPI 9705 / A970137-01
    Rubber Soul: ifpi L573 / 3824182 / IFPI 9727 / A970142-01
    Revolver: ifpi L573 / 3824172 / IFPI 9703 / A970141-01
    Sgt Pepper's LHCB: ifpi L573 / 3824192 / IFPI 9705 / A970145-01
    Magical Mystery Tour: ifpi L571 / 3824652 / IFPI 9727 / A970139-01
    The Beatles Disc 1: ifpi L573 / 3834532 / IFPI 9746 / A970153-01
    The Beatles Disc 2: ifpi L573 / 3834542 / IFPI 9743 / A970153-02
    Yellow Submarine: ifpi L573 / 3824672 / IFPI 9727 / A970149-01
    Abbey Road: ifpi L573 / 3824682 / IFPI 9705 / A970133-01
    Let It Be: ifpi L573 / 3824722 / IFPI 9707 / A970138-01
    Past Masters Disc 1: ifpi L573 / 6967642 / IFPI 9743 / A972902-01
    Past Masters Disc 2: ifpi L573 / 6967652 / IFPI 9746
    Mini Docs DVD: ifpi L572 / 6994499 / IFPI 9749 / D973061-01

    And for the hell of it, (because I'm scared all my discs are fakes) here's the BBC and Submarine Songtrack.

    Yellow Submarine Songtrack: ifpi L574 / 5214812 / IFPI 9746 / AC64584-01
    Live At The BBC Vol 1. Disc 1: ifpi L573 / 3749156-1 / IFPI 9754 / AD28911-01
    Live At The BBC Vol 1. Disc 2: ifpi L573 / 3749156-2 / IFPI 9754 / AD28911-02
    Live At The BBC Vol 2. Disc 1: ifpi L573 / 0602537491759 / IFPI 9746 / AD28214-01
    Live At The BBC Vol 2. Disc 2: ifpi L573 / 0602537491766 / IFPI 9743 / AD28214-02

    Any confirmation on my discs as to authenticity would be greatly appreciated.
     
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