How would you rate "Diamond Dogs" (1974) by David Bowie?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Haristar, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. yesstiles

    yesstiles Senior Member

    A bit, yes. Could have been replaced with the original "Candidate" (which bears no resemblance to the included song Candidate). I think "Rock 'n' Roll with Me" was the odd track out because it presaged Bowie's abrupt shift to his brand of soul music so quickly after this.
     
  2. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Los Angeles, CA
    I suppose that the title track,"Rebel Rebel" and "1984" are well-known enough at this point to be "classic Bowie", and the cover is iconic.

    Overall, I don't think it's a great album, but I was 13 or 14 back then, so it's got a place in my heart -a space that it shares with other not-quite-great-but-I-love-em albums like The Hoople, Goats Head Soup and Muscle of Love.
     
  3. Marc 74

    Marc 74 Senior Member

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    West Germany,NRW
    Easily Option A for me. One of my all-time favorite albums.
     
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  4. shadow blaster

    shadow blaster Forum Resident

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    Essential and classic for me. Sweet Thing medley is his finest vocal captured on tape, IMO.
     
  5. Veni Vidi Vici

    Veni Vidi Vici Forum Resident

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    Chicago, IL
    For me, it's his saxophone which makes the track, which for some reason hardly ever gets mentioned. ST/C/ST(R) is peak Bowie - where his wit, vision, melodicism and rarely deployed instrumental prowess all come together in his greatest studio performance.
     
  6. kenbefound

    kenbefound Forum Resident

    This was the first Bowie release where I felt let down. After loving Aladdin Sane, then Pinups even more, I could not wait to pick this up on release day. When I put the stylus on the record I was introduced to this creepy music talking about rats, mutants, I'm like......what is this!? Then when I heard the guitar work I found myself looking at the liner notes, but where's Mick Ronson?! Then finally, I remembered seeing Bowie perform this awesome new song called 1984 on Midnight Special but wait, this version is different; that incredible DoDo middle part that juxtapositioned so well with the main tune was missing? So yeah, never one of my favorites....
     
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  7. Eric Weinraub

    Eric Weinraub Forum Resident

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    Oregon
    While there are many I prefer over it....

    • Station to Station
    • Ziggy
    • Low
    • Heroes
    ....EVERYTHING through Scary Monsters is essential.
     
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  8. Marvin

    Marvin Senior Member

    I like We are the Dead an a few others, but definitely so-so overall.
     
  9. mikaal

    mikaal Sociopathic Nice Guy

    Me, I like a Hunky American Man.
     
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  10. Mike McMann

    Mike McMann Forum Resident

    Essential listening.
    Played it for days on end after it's release.
    Didn't think Bowie could or would match the Ziggy or Aladdin Sane albums but he beat out all expectations.
     
  11. SixOClockBoos

    SixOClockBoos The Man On The Flaming Pie

    My friend bought me a copy of this for my birthday. I listned to it once since then and I thought it was great. Rebel Rebel is my favorite and 1984 sounds almost disco.
     
  12. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

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    This is where Bowie proved that he was no conventional pop star. Break up the band, take a vision of societal collapse inspired by Orwell's 1984, and make a fractured cityscape with audio, visual and dramatic components.

    He raced ahead of his fans and left many of them behind forever.

    Incidentally, I now sure of the meaning of the title "Sweet thing." Bowie is sketching out the album sequence. I think we need some kind of suite thing, he muses. He writes it down. Suite thing. Hmm, yes. "It's a sweet thing, sweet thing."

    Tim :)
     
  13. dead of night

    dead of night Senior Member

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    Northern Va, usa
    You're right, it's a pun, never thought about that before. Bowie is nothing if not a punster, or "pundit" as he said in Watch That Man.
     
  14. douglas mcclenaghan

    douglas mcclenaghan Forum Resident

    A stunningly good album. Second only to The Man Who Sold The World for me. Better than Ziggy and Aladdin, and miles better than Hunky, which I've always thought has been overrated.
     
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  15. TGH7

    TGH7 Forum Resident

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    A Bowie must have. A few songs are only good, not great. Wish the production values would have been cleaner as some of the tunes have a lot going on.

    Transitional album.
     
  16. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

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    Not one of my favorites, but not without merit. A "so, so" vote from me. Honestly, I don't think a single song on it would make the cut for my personal best of Bowie, but the overall album has a pleasing enough vibe.

    Side note: I seem to recall the original Rolling Stone album guide calling Diamond Dogs the leaden nadir of Bowie's sci-fi trip.
     
  17. Dave Thompson

    Dave Thompson Forum Resident

    Should have dropped R&R With Me and kept Dodo... but aside from that, perfection
     
  18. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident

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    Chicago metro, USA
    You need to give Aladdin Sane a fresh listen on a good sound system.
     
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  19. Vangro

    Vangro Forum Resident

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    London
    What makes you think he'd heard Neu! this early?
     
  20. NightGoatToCairo

    NightGoatToCairo Forum Resident

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    Essential. Along with Hunky Dory, my favourite Bowie from '69-74'.

    The weakest tracks IMO are Diamond Dogs and Rebel Rebel and not due to familiarity. I do prefer them both in the context of the album as opposed to standalone songs. I wish Rebel had been slightly edited as the track really outstays it's welcome and doesn't really go anywhere after the 100th chorus.

    The rest is simply brilliant and it's all been said here already.
     
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  21. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident

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    But the fact that Dodo is an outtake is pretty cool, makes it special. I remember hearing it on TV and have it on Sound+Vision box set.
     
  22. Vangro

    Vangro Forum Resident

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    London
    Essential listening - a true classic. The murky muddy production is maybe my only quibble, that and the awkward edit from "Candidate" to "Sweet Thing". Peter Hammill's "Nadir's Last Chance" reminds me of this album.
     
  23. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident

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    Chicago metro, USA
    Not this again. Bowie basically borrowed from neu! verbatim on Dogs and Station. Nothing wrong with that, he took the science of neu! and engineered it into art.
     
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  24. oldturkey

    oldturkey Forum Resident

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    Gone away.
    For such an outstanding outtake, nobody's talking about Alternative Csndidate. That track is such a find. The sound quality on this is poor but you can watch the clear vinyl going round in a pretty way.

     
  25. Vangro

    Vangro Forum Resident

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    London
    I don't hear any Neu! on "Station to Station", for what it's worth, and any perceived Neu! influence on "Diamond Dogs" might be down to Bowie and Neu! both being big Stooges fans. I don't know. I do know Bowie and Eno talked about Harmonia's "Deluxe" being inspirational - which is obvious because "Red Sails" is basically Harmonia's "Monza" with Bowie singing over it.
     
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