Howard Jones - super deluxe editions of first two albums

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  1. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan Thread Starter

    Location:
    USA
    here is the tracklistings:
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    Released on Nov.30th, these expansive boxsets are the first reissues by Cherry Red of HoJo's back catalogue:

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    HUMANS LIB (1984)

    DISC ONE:

    1. CONDITIONING
    2. WHAT IS LOVE?
    3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
    4. HIDE & SEEK
    5. HUNT THE SELF
    6. NEW SONG
    7. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
    8. EQUALITY
    9. NATURAL
    10. HUMAN’S LIB
    11. CHINA DANCE
    12. NEW SONG (PORTUGUESE 7″ SINGLE MIX)**
    13. WHAT IS LOVE? (ROUGH MIX) *
    14. DON’T PUT THESE CURSES ON ME (INSTRUMENTAL) *
    15. HUMAN’S LIB (FARMYARD MIX) *
    16. PEARL IN THE SHELL (ROUGH MIX) *
    17. NEW SONG (MIX TAKE 1) *

    DISC TWO:

    1. NEW SONG (ALTERNATIVE 12″)
    2. WHAT IS LOVE? (EXTENDED MIX)
    3. HIDE & SEEK (EXTENDED VERSION)
    4. PEARL IN THE SHELL (US 12″ MIX)
    5. CONDITIONING (ORIGINAL MIX)
    6. NEW SONG (NEW EXTENDED MIX) *
    7. HUNT THE SELF (LIVE AT THE MARQUEE) *
    8. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (INSTRUMENTAL) *
    9. TOTAL CONDITIONING *
    10. LAW OF THE JUNGLE ***
    11. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (ROUGH MIX) *
    12. EQUALITY (ROUGH MIX) *
    13. HIDE & SEEK (ROUGH MIX) *

    DISC THREE:

    1. CONDITIONING (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
    2. HUMAN’S LIB (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
    3. EQUALITY (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
    4. RISK (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
    5. DREAMS OF A BETTER PLACE (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
    6. LOVE?(LIVING ROOM DEMO)
    7. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (PROMO VIDEO)
    8. NEW SONG (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 22ND SEPTEMBER 1983)
    9. WHAT IS LOVE? (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH DECEMBER 1983)
    10. WHAT IS LOVE? (OXFORD ROAD SHOW BROADCAST ON 6TH JANUARY 1984)
    11. HIDE AND SEEK (LIVE)(TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH MARCH 1984)
    12. EQUALITY (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
    13. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
    14. PEARL IN THE SHELL (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 7TH JUNE 1984)

    PROMO VIDEOS
    15. NEW SONG
    16. WHAT IS LOVE?
    17. HIDE AND SEEK
    18. PEARL IN THE SHELL
    19. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (LONDON VERSION)

    DISC FOUR: PICTURE DISC LP

    SIDE ONE
    1. CONDITIONING
    2. WHAT IS LOVE?
    3. PEARL IN THE SHELL 4. HIDE & SEEK
    5. HUNT THE SELF

    SIDE TWO
    1. NEW SONG
    2. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN 3. EQUALITY
    4. NATURAL
    5. HUMAN’S LIB

    DISC FIVE: PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED AND REMASTERED TRACKS

    1. NEW SONG (NEW FARMYARD MIX) *
    2. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (FARMYARD MIX) *
    3. EQUALITY (FARMYARD MIX) *
    4. NEW SONG (NEW VERSION) ***
    5. LOVE? (EARLY VERSION OF WHAT IS LOVE?) *
    6. TAO TE CHING ***
    7. CHANGE THE MAN ***
    8. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (LIVE AT THE MARQUEE) **
    9. NEW SONG (EXTENDED)
    10.IT JUST DOESN’T MATTER ***
    11.DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (ROUGH MIX) *
    12.NEW SONG (NEW MIX VERSION 2) *

    KID JENSEN BBC SESSIONS
    13.DON’T PUT THESE CURSES ON ME *
    14.NATURAL *
    15.NEW SONG *
    16.HUMAN’S LIB *

    * PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
    ** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DIGITALLY
    *** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

    DISC SIX: CASSETTE

    SIDE ONE
    1. HUMAN’S LIB *
    2. LOVE? *

    SIDE TWO
    1. RISK *
    2. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS *

    * PREVIOUS UNRELEASED

    DISC SEVEN: HOWARD JONES LIVE IN JAPAN
    1. NEW SONG
    2. TAO TE CHING
    3. HUNT THE SELF
    4. PEARL IN THE SHELL
    5. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
    6. HIDE & SEEK
    7. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS
    8. DREAMS OF A BETTER PLACE
    9. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
    10. EQUALITY
    11. NATURAL
    12. CONDITIONING
    13.DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
    14.WHAT IS LOVE?



    DREAM INTO ACTION (1985)
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    DISC ONE:

    1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
    2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
    3. DREAM INTO ACTION
    4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
    5. LOOK MAMA
    6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY
    7. AUTOMATON
    8. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
    9. ELEGY
    10. SPECIALTY
    11. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
    12. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH
    13. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
    14. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
    15. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (REMAKE) *
    16. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (DEMO RECORDED IN HOWARD’S FRONT ROOM) *
    17. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (THE LONG MIX) (JANICE LONG BBC SESSION) **

    DISC TWO:

    1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (SINGLE MIX)
    2. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (INTERNATIONAL REMIX)
    3. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (EXTENDED MIX)
    4. LOOK MAMA (UK EXTENDED MIX) **
    5. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 1
    6. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 2
    7. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (EXTENDED MIX)
    8. LEARNING HOW TO LOVE *
    9. BOOM BAP RESPITE ***
    10. THE CHASE ***
    11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (LAMBS & PLANES MIX) *
    12. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (CAUSE & EFFECT REMIX)

    * PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
    ** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DIGITALLY
    *** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

    DISC THREE:

    1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
    2. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
    3. LOOK MAMA (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
    4. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 21ST FEBRUARY 1985)
    5. LOOK MAMA (WOGAN BROADCAST 24TH APRIL 1985)
    6. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (WOGAN BROADCAST 7TH MARCH 1986)

    PROMO VIDEOS
    7. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (US VERSION)
    8. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
    9. LOOK MAMA
    10. LIFE IN ONE DAY
    11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
    12. LIFE IN ONE DAY (ALTERNATE BROADCAST VERS.)

    DISC FOUR: PICTURE DISC LP

    SIDE ONE
    1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
    2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
    3. DREAM INTO ACTION
    4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
    5. LOOK MAMA
    6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY

    SIDE TWO
    1. AUTOMATON
    2. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
    3. ELEGY
    4. SPECIALTY
    5. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
    6. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH

    DISC FIVE: THE FARMYARD SESSIONS PLUS UNRELEASED AND REMASTERED TRACKS

    1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    2. DREAM INTO ACTION (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    3. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    4. LOOK MAMA (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    5. ASSAULT & BATTERY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    6. AUTOMATON (ROBOT MAN) (INSTRUMENTAL) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    7. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    8. ELEGY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    9. SPECIALTY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    10. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY? (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    11. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
    12. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (ALTERNATIVE MIX)***
    13. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (REMIXED)*
    14. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (TV MIX)*
    15. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (RADIO MIX)*
    16. YOU JAZZY NORK!***

    * PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
    *** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

    DISC SIX: DVD

    LAST WORLD DREAM – LIVE IN CONCERT
    1. PEARL IN THE SHELL
    2. YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU (DON’T YOU?)
    3. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
    4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
    5. LIFE IN ONE DAY
    6. LOOK MAMA
    7. WILL YOU STILL BE THERE?
    8. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS
    9. HIDE & SEEK
    10. DREAM INTO ACTION
    11. WHAT IS LOVE?
    12. NEW SONG
    13. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER

    also out on the same date these are available as 2cd/dvd,single cd and LP formats too.


    later
    -1
     
  2. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Forum Resident

    Wow. They are certainly comprehensive! Wonder what they’ll cost?

    Odd that on the Human’s Lib box, I can’t see the single mix of What Is Love...Unless they’ve restored it to the album like on the original LP..
     
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  3. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan Thread Starter

    Location:
    USA
    prices are on the cherry red site about 90ukp.

    there are cheaper 2cd and 1cd versions, and also colored vinyl versions.

    later
    -1
     
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  4. Sordel

    Sordel Forum Resident

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    Switzerland
    Never thought I'd see Howard Jones superdeluxes. Too rich for my blood, I think, but I'll be watching the thread to see whether they're done well.
     
  5. Juggsnelson

    Juggsnelson Senior Member

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    Long Island
    Man those look nice!
     
  6. Rigsby

    Rigsby Forum Resident

    Location:
    London, UK
    The 2CD and DVD versions are probably enough for me, but assuming these are well mastered I'm really excited for these releases. I haven't revisited these albums in a long time. I'd like to see the same job done on the first two Nick Kershaw albums, I don't think it's been done already has it? Not with DVDs at least.
     
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  7. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I very much liked Howard Jones first couple of albums. In fact Human's Lib probably helped me turn the corner from disliking synthesizer music to enjoying it ....
    These sets look very comprehensive ... My minor beef would be, that for me to be interested in repurchasing them, a 5.1 remix would be the dangling carrot. I am rarely interested in a million remixes and demos, personally
     
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  8. lv70smusic

    lv70smusic Senior Member

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    San Francisco, CA
    How I hate this superdeluxe box set trend. I don't really need to rebuy this album. For that matter, I think I have most of these extended remixes and b-sides already on cd. Some of the other stuff in the large box sets is interesting, but I'm not sure I'm willing to part with about $120 per box to get those extras.

    I m curious as to whether anyone involved in this project will be smart enough to include the slightly longer versions of Things Can Only Get Better and Why Look For The Key in place of the original album versions on the Dream Into Action set. I know that might ruffle some feathers because those would represent a departure from the original album, but the slightly longer fade on Things Can Only Get Better has only been released on cd a couple of times and, to my knowledge, the slightly longer Why Look For The Key is thus far absent on cd. Or they could be added as separate bonus tracks even though they are identical to the album versions but for the longer fades. And, for such a comprehensive set, it's a bit surprising that it doesn't contain every previously released extended mix. At first glance, I'm not sure what all is missing but the one that jumps out at me is the Megamamamix of Look Mama.
     
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  9. Surly

    Surly Bon Viv-oh-no-he-didn't

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    These look pretty cool, but I'm personally not interested in boxed sets that contain CDs and then also a vinyl copy of the same album. I just don't care for vinyl. I have the Kings Of The Wild Frontier set from Adam And The Ants that includes the vinyl, which I'll never play.

    I have the reissues Howard released a few years ago which I'm fine with, and also a DVD he released with all of his music videos. The one thing I'd like from these sets is the Last World Dream DVD, but alas, DVDs from these types of sets are almost never sold separately.
     
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  10. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

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    Well, he has taken control of his masters for some time now, and even a lot of them out himself, augmented, with what I thought was his own remastering (bad move, IMO; you should have somebody in the chain brave enough to tell you no. let a pro do it, with your best interests in mind). Only thing that I could have asked for, were 5.1 mixes, which sadly were not forthcoming. I mean, the guy's a synthesist - it's not like the notion had not occurred to him that he has control of the sound, he should have control of the soundstage, and make it fantastic.

    Oddly, the only 5.1 experience we've gotten from Hojo, is curiously an album of solo piano. :wtf: What can you gain from that....? :confused:
     
  11. DiabloG

    DiabloG City Pop, Rock, and anything 80s til I die

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    I also want to point out that, at least for Human's Lib, the 2010 remaster stays in perfect sync with the original CD and has almost identical EQ as well. I hate when that kind of thing happens, especially when the artists themselves are involved in the remastering. Hopefully this new reissue will use the actual master tapes.
     
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  12. jamesc

    jamesc Senior Member

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    Dallas, TX
    I can finally cross the Portuguese 7" of New Song off my wantlist! :p
     
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  13. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan Thread Starter

    Location:
    USA
    why not, almost every 80's band has one, or anniversary dates for them.

    not really that surprising. i've seen superdeluxes of much lesser bands come out.

    personally, 5.1 mixes are just a waste of space, and gimmicks, since they don't represent the original
    music.

    i'm glad there's a lot of demos, remixes and edits.


    so, just sell it off, or trade/give it away.

    later
    -1
     
  14. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    that's obviously personal taste, but there are very few of my four or five hundred surround albums that are gimmicky ... and the mono heads said stereo was a gimmick when it came out also ... i'm sure glad nobody listened to that.
     
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  15. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan Thread Starter

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    because, most artists obviously record in surround sound, NOT.

    it's just an artificial way of selling more things to people that offer no advantage over
    the standard stereo.

    just like theres no real benefit to 4k over 1080p video.

    the vast majority of people will never listen to any music in surround (movies yes), will
    never calibrate their systems, and never actually enjoy a recording in that format,

    later
    -1
     
  16. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

    Location:
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    Sure...it's not like beefing up an album with lots of extra tracks as an artificial way of selling more things to people that offer no advantage over the standard album length, huh. :rolleyes:

    And, the vast majority of people will never listen to any music in a deluxe version (YouTube, yes), will never calibrate their audio systems, and never actually enjoy a recording re-mastered by Steven Wilson, Elliot Scheiner, Kevin Gray, Ted Jensen, Bill Inglot,Bernie Grundman, Dennis Drake, Doug Sax or Steve Hoffman. Or Giles Martin. ;)...or, Ed Feinblatt. :help:

    ...or Peter Mew...:hide:
     
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  17. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Although adament, your statements lack any knowledge whatsoever.
    Enjoy that cupboard
     
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  18. lv70smusic

    lv70smusic Senior Member

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    If you think that no music can benefit from a surround mix, then either you haven't bothered listening or you simply don't care about the issue. That doesn't mean that such mixes don't bring added pleasure to others.

    Even with electronic music -- those early Depeche Mode albums sound great in 5.1. Surprisingly great to my ears. So even something synth based can wow in surround.

    As for your 4K versus 1080p video comment, I'm guessing you simply haven't watched any 4K video on a good monitor or you wouldn't have made that comment.

    Your post makes you sound like someone who simply doesn't care to pay attention to details. Maybe you notice differences but just don't care about them. I have friends like that. They can listen to my system and acknowledge it sounds a lot better than what they are used to, but then they continue listening to very low-fi systems in their own homes because they simply don't care about the qualitative difference. Music is a background thing for them. I'm not saying you are necessarily that disinterested in actually listening to music as a primary activity, but your dismissive posts are reminiscent of others who simply don't care.
     
  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    those depeche mode surrounds turned out great, didn't they
     
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  20. telecode101

    telecode101 Forum Resident

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    Me neither. Even though I owned both those tapes back in the day and played them to death, Howard Jones is hardly someone I consider an essential artist of the era the deserves extensive deluxe editions of odd ball rarities.

    I would love to see them do some Nik Kershaw stuff. That would be wild.
     
  21. berlinerpunk

    berlinerpunk Record Collector

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    Berlin/Brooklyn
    Superdeluxeoverkill! If you are a megafan, it's an amazing collection ... it's got everything but the 8-track.
     
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  22. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

    They did Mark, as well as the Yaz/Yazoo's
    I think Lib would of been neat.
    I'm just thankful for the amount of content included with these, good God :laugh:
     
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  23. telecode101

    telecode101 Forum Resident

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    I would totally get the Nik Kershaw ones (and an LP player again) if they were to release it.

    ^^^ hint hint.. Cherry Red records...
     
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  24. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    oh, i didn't know they did yazoo .... it's certainly a nice set, i just never listen to demos and outtakes .... human's lib is probably my favourite of the earlier synth albums, and its just disappointing there's no 5.1
     
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  25. DiabloG

    DiabloG City Pop, Rock, and anything 80s til I die

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    Hopefully. At the very least, they should put Radio Musicola back in print. I think vinyl is the only format where you can find the album for reasonable prices.
     
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