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I Must Say...Tidal’s Blowin’ My Mind!

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Khorn, May 24, 2020.

  1. Khorn

    Khorn Senior Member Thread Starter

    No, it’s good for me ‘cause I’m happy!
     
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  2. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

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    I know it doesn’t, which is why I asked the question.

    Thanks for the info on Qobuz, one of these days I will have to check it out and compare.
     
  3. vinylshadow

    vinylshadow Forum Resident

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    I've read posts on other forums(DIYMA etc) where posters feel that getting the first unfold is good enough. Especially in a car stereo where you're dealing with road noise. But I don't think my Motorola even does the first unfold even though my TIDAL app shows "MASTER". Supposedly UAPP helps with that...

    But at home is a different story. Chromecast in HiFi mode on my home system sounds very good and it is so convenient. But, I am interested in milking out better sound if it is possible. A laptop with the TIDAL app would give the first unfolding which would allow a Master to be sent. My Classe's DAC is capable of up to 192/26 so that should be enough I think. It's then about getting a streamer like the Bluesound Node 2i if I want the whole enchilada. Plus I think it shows the streaming level numbers.

    This is a bit confusing to someone who is not digitally savvy.
     
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  4. Khorn

    Khorn Senior Member Thread Starter

    It’s sorta a bummer that I can’t get to check out what the whole Qobuz thing is about.
     
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  5. Fruff76

    Fruff76 L100 Classic - Fan Club President

    I tried it and honestly didn’t think I was missing out on anything that I didn’t already have on tidal. On top of that, I already had a huge playlist and collection on albums on tidal that I really didn’t want to have to build all over again in another service. To me, the “hi Rez” was no more enjoyable than the hi fi on tidal.
     
  6. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    I’ve had Tidal for 5 years. It’s a godsend & saves me tons of money a year. Plus, it sounds great!
     
  7. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    Anyone tried any of those Fiio DAPs with Bluetooth for Tidal? Any good?
     
  8. vinylshadow

    vinylshadow Forum Resident

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    ...
     
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  9. Just Walking

    Just Walking Forum Resident

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    I don't know if Tidal still does this - but a couple of years ago when I originally subscribed to the hifi version, the default set up was mp3. Even though you'd think that subscribing to the higher cost service would automatically select flac. Took some disappointing listening until I worked out what the problem was. Once I'd manually selected hifi (flac) streaming everything was fine.
     
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  10. vinylshadow

    vinylshadow Forum Resident

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    Yes. You have to go into settings>streaming and select masters. Mine was originally set on Normal.
     
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  11. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    I’m not happy with Tidal using MQA otherwise I don’t mind Tidal but I’m voting with my wallet and refuse to pay Tidal for using it.
     
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  12. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    Another reason not to be fooled by MQA. Doesn’t matter if your Classe can do 192/24 if it is not MQA equipped you won’t be getting the full MQA unfold.
     
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  13. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    If they manage to gain a foothold they should eventually get there however that may take a while. If you wanted to go the vpn route it would be the only way to try for now or if you had any friends you could go visit that have it in another country I suppose.
     
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  14. Fruff76

    Fruff76 L100 Classic - Fan Club President

    The beauty of capitalism. We love it, you hate it, but we both have the choice to either use it or not.
     
  15. Fruff76

    Fruff76 L100 Classic - Fan Club President

    Does anyone know what the darker blue chromecast color is? Sometimes that little icon is light blue, sometimes it’s dark blue.
     
  16. zakyfarms

    zakyfarms White cane lying in a gutter in the lane.

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    I found an article that says Tidal pays artists 1.2 cents per stream, more than its competitors.
     
  17. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    vinylshadow is correct. I find it also helps to turn off volume normalization in the menu as well otherwise it sounds as if the high end is rolled off or not as clear. Wonder how many people bother going into the menu to check all this stuff sometimes...
     
  18. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    I highly doubt that is true.
     
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  19. Khorn

    Khorn Senior Member Thread Starter

    For someone who hates MQA so much why do you even care about it? I would just forget about it and pretend it doesn’t exist. I don’t like Kalashnikovs but I don’t sit around and think about them.
     
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  20. vinylshadow

    vinylshadow Forum Resident

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    I just changed phones and went into TIDAL's settings and they were set at Normal. Changed that...I've never known that the "loudness normalization" had the effect you described. I turned that off too. I'll be interested to see the difference.

    When most people here are talking about TIDAL, is it all on your home systems?

    Anyone do any TIDAL playing in their cars out of a head unit? From what I've read, even though the TIDAL screen will show MASTER, cell phones and head units can't unfold any MQA or play Master's as they are not MQA( LG's are and can do both but I believe only through their headphone jacks where their DACs are). Iphones have something called bit perfect so it sends higher bit rate/sampling I believe.

    I've read a lot of posts from people using UAPP and they say that it makes a difference on any phone.I think it may allow for the first MQ unfold? Or sends higher sampling through the USB?...So, I guess right now I'm getting TIDAL HiFi in the car. Sounds good but always curious about the MQA which I guess you need a DAP for and play through a DSP..... Nothing's easy nor easy to understand for us digitally uninformed folks.

    But I'd be so interested to hear an A vs B, TIDAL HiFi vs MQA completely unfolded to see the differences and what the hubbub is about.
     
  21. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    I care to see it go away.
     
  22. BayouTiger

    BayouTiger Forum Resident

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    You are missing out! I love my Kalashnikov!!! :cool:
     
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  23. vinylshadow

    vinylshadow Forum Resident

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    I figure, if there are so many people investing in streaming systems at home, there must be something to the sonics of MQA. And hi res files too. I've only played hi res from vinyl so I've never messed with them but TIDAL Masters would be fun to hear.
     
  24. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    I’m using Tidal on my IPhone 6 through the head unit of my vehicle and it does play the MASTER files.
     
  25. Just Walking

    Just Walking Forum Resident

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    Well darn. Hadn't noticed the volume normalization button. What a daft idea for hifi use. Good idea if you are listening in a car where having volume normalization might be a good idea. But why oh why is the default low res audio and volume normalization? I've unclicked it.
     
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