Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Oct 3, 2018.
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Steve, if you were ever offered the chance to remix an artists album, how would you approach it? or are you against remixing something that has already been heard by the public?
I meant the CDs sound muddled and low in volume. No one has captured the "cavernous" sound of the vinyl, as you put it, on disk. I wonder if no one ever really got a hold of the actual master tapes.
What's the album?
Found it, thanks.
With pleasure, obviously.
Have a listen to the 1993 Victory or 1996 Rhino versions (they're the same).
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (CD, US, 1993) For Sale | Discogs
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
I take it the sound quality of that video is not representative of Tom Dowd's work? Adding also not demonstrating the effects from Steves's mentioning his monitors were 15db louder at 1kHz dying at around 7500Hz?
In the video Tom Dowd appears to be coaching Aretha on attack and release of her singing style and the same on the rhythm section. This is something I wasn't aware sound engineers got into or should get into as Dowd claims he doesn't want to interfere with the spontaneity of the artist during creation. I see a lot of interfering similar to how Phil Spector dominated the recording studio.
Thanks for posting the video. Very interesting.
So what were the terrible side effects of digital NR? Was it creating "swirly textured" artifacts throughout the overall sound or only in the high frequencies? I ask because I'm wondering if NR is the reason so many mastered for CD songs' high frequencies seem to ramp up and spike too quickly when cranking up the volume. IOW NR screws up the linearity of the song? Or maybe the mastering engineer got too hot with the EQ in anything over 6000Hz?
Thanks for answering and your dedication to your craft.
The video of Aretha has nothing to do with sound quality. I posted it to show Dowd’s rapport with the artists. And because it’s cool.
Dowd was usually more than “just” an engineer, and later went into full blown production.
I'm curious what your template might be if you had the shot. Would you lean towards conservation with a familiar mix that just tried to make sonic improvements, or would you be more ambitious and open to a new interpretations? Or somewhere in the middle?
No idea, it would depend on what the person hiring me wanted.
Steve , I just purchased the 45rpm Rumours that you mastered. The absolute best I ever heard it. There is actually great kick drum and bass that will make you sit up and listen. I’ve only had cd or repress versions of Rumours thru the years. The album was repressed so many times, I'm sure I've never heard a first or second pressing. Do you recall if the first general label pressings were thin sounding like many later pressings? Or is that how it was just originally mastered? Thanks.
Please do so and while you’re at Abbey Road how about cutting the stereo albums. No half speed master gimmicks.
My original promo LP isn't thin sounding at all. We used it as a guide to do the RHINO 45 RPM version.
They have different mastering credit (based on their Discogs release page)
That seems to be correct, although the credit is wrong for the earlier one.
Did you see the doc. "Tom Dowd & the Language of Music" and if so, what did you think of it?
I haven't, sorry. Just too close to the subject matter. One day..
Ok, good to know, Thanks.
The original credit is for Joseph Palmaccio on the Victory. I suspect this is correct and Bill Inglot is credited because he added several interviews to the 1993 Victory set and was thus credited as remastering the album for Rhino, whereas it sounds identical to the Victory to me. IIRC, these twp are the only ones on CD to have all the parts of Karn Evil 9 sounding the same, because they were mastered from first generation masters which didn't have the fade out/in that was created for the vinyl releases.
I have it snd was not impressed.
Without Tom Dowd, there might have been no "Sunshine Of Your Love". Ginger Baker couldn't figure out a drum part, and Dowd suggested imitating the drums used when the Indians were on the warpath in old Westerns. Fit perfectly.
If you remixed Revolver would you leave in John’s “life of ease” or would you try to replicate the mono?
What other changes would you make?
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