SH Spotlight I'm asked stuff: Favorite mastering engineer, best BOSTON CD, best TRAVELING WILBURYS CD, etc..

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    "Life of ease" is in both stereo and mono. You mean the cutoff at the beginning? The mistake? Why would anyone want that?
     
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  2. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    When John echoes the lyrics in the last verse it fades up at “everyone of us” on the original Stereo. No “life of ease”

     
  3. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Yeah, a goof. Guy couldn't be bothered to do another mix to fix it, thought no one would notice. Same for Rigby. Stupid, sloppy mistakes, easily fixed back then but no one cared. The mono was what mattered.
     
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  4. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    I was so used to the original stereo that when they played the mono on TV during the movie I was shocked.
    Yeah. Rigby is horrible.
    Also, I think the ADT vocal effect gets ruined in stereo because they hard panned it.
     
  5. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    What's so horrible about it? It's a tiny blip.

    It would be interesting to hear that second vocal though.
     
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  6. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Did I ask you?
     
  7. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Did you ask me what?
     
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  8. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    It’s distracting. You’re talking about the first verse where they fade down the ADT real fast and the lead vocal moves to one side .... correct?
    I meant mostly it’s a horrible mistake (and sloppy as you said)and since it was at the beginning they could have easily started over.

    Was the stereo Revolver rushed of nobody cared enough about the stereo yet?
     
  9. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    It's not ADT, but yes, that's what I'm talking about. Sloppy? Yes. A big deal? I'd argue not.
     
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  10. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    Not a big deal in the grand scheme... or for speaker listening.
    I DO believe it’s an ADT mistake though.
     
  11. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    It's not. It's a second vocal track that went unused. While it's possible to basically "reverse" the ADT (lining up the left and right channels so Paul's ADT'd vocal is essentially mono and the strings are essentially ADT'd), it's not possible to do that for "Ela-" at the start of the first verse.

    Plus, there's no ADT in the intro, so it doesn't make sense that they would have had to quickly fade it down in mixing. The vocals in the left and right channels in the intro are clearly different vocals.
     
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  12. Keith V

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    The left side isn’t beefed up by ADT from the right during the intro?
     
  13. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Nope. Just two different vocal tracks.
     
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  14. stlblues

    stlblues Well-Known Member

    Just came across this thread, fantastic. Thanks Steve.
    If this has already been asked, sorry. Have you ever done any Zeppelin, would you like to?
    Are there a lot of big egos in your business?
     
  15. JamesD1957

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    I know you can't, and wouldn't, name names, but have you ever had to put your name on a mastering job that you were unhappy with because of what "they" wanted?
     
  16. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Sadly, yes. Not many though. Usually it's a surprise (remastered after my mastering).
     
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  17. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Never done any Zep, no. Egos? Sure, big. Wouldn't have it any other way. The only way to get anywhere in this business..
     
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  18. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kinda guy.

    I'm sure Ginger said he figured that part out himself in "The Making Of Disraeli Gears" DVD!
     
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  19. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kinda guy.

    The Victory and Rhino series are the best the ELP catalogue has ever sounded. Not sure about the latest Andy Pearce BMG catalogue versions however.
     
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  20. CrimsonPiper

    CrimsonPiper Forum Resident

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    I have the Rhino with the holographic cover and i agree, it sounds very good.
     
  21. RickA

    RickA Senior Member

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    Welcome Back re-mastered by Andy P & Matt Wortham from 2016 is the best I have heard of this live recording. Now if only someone can find the quad tapes and release them, that would be great!
     
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  22. RickA

    RickA Senior Member

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    Pick your target Steve and we will contribute with a "Go fund Me" campaign. :agree:
     
  23. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Don Covay And The Goodtimers on Atlantic. Two albums. Have mercy, baby!
     
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  24. RickA

    RickA Senior Member

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    So we contact WEA? Hmmmm.
     
  25. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Start a record label first, get a million in the bank to show them that you are serious. Then they might talk to you.
     

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