In 1968-69, Did The Band Help Invigorate Elvis Presley's Music?

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  1. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, The Door Into Mike Love Thread Starter

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    It's a common line of reasoning that The Band helped The Beatles, Eric Clapton, solo Beatles, rock music in general, etc. What about Elvis Presley in particular, though? Did The Band inspire Elvis to reach greater heights with his artistry? By 1966, Elvis had already begun to record Bob Dylan songs. In 1968, was he also listening to The Band and their approach to rock 'n roll?
     
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  2. Chemguy

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    Never considered it, but probably for good reason. I hear no influence.
     
  3. jeendicott

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    His own band did.
     
  4. zphage

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    What did the Band do for the other artists that it would have done for Elvis? Back to roots?
    Delaney and Bonnie with their crazed back to roots revival show that rolled across the US and Europe with a religious fervor enveloping Harrison, Clapton, Allman then spinning off to Mad Dogs and Englishmen and Derek and the Dominos may have had more to do with a back to roots revival than the Band. Delaney and Bonnie may have had an actual impact/connection with Elvis, whereas the Band probably did not.
     
  5. S. P. Honeybunch

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    Sorry, forgot to reference the "roots" influence or "back to basics" approach. That was what I meant to mention in the OP.
     
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  6. fretter

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    From what I read, when Elvis met the Beatles, John told him to leave the movies and get back to making music.
     
  7. Graham

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  8. chervokas

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    Well, Elvis was obviously hearing it, Dylan maybe more so than The Band per se, though probably the musicians were aware of the music of The Band. There's that great clip of Elvis singing "I Shall Be Release a capella at a '71 recording session. Too bad he didn't record the tune, that would have been a PERFECT one for Elvis and I can only image with what he had to offer the song he could have recorded a definitive version. The Col. though didn't really let a lot of that kind of music through. I don't think Elvis returning to the road (vs. movies), or doing a stripped down informal circle jam in the '68 TV special had much if anything to do with The Band, it had more to do with TV producer Steve Binder seeing what Elvis did best, and a generation's memories of Elvis and rock and roll at the start (along with the budding '50s nostalgia of the time, remember it wasn't only The Band who played Woodstock, it was also Sha Na Na).

     
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  9. Hot Ptah

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    I think that The Band had zero influence on Elvis. I just don’t see it or hear it at all.
     
  10. Rfreeman

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    Think maybe we got this backwards and Elvis's music invigorated the approaches of The Band and all those other rock artists.
     
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  11. FunkFather

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    I’d be surprised if he’d even heard of the Band.
     
  12. IndyTodd

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    I was just getting ready to post something along the same lines. With only one single even reaching the Top 30 and nothing breaking the Top 20 I think it’s entirely possible he had little to no exposure to them.

    Based on what we know of his record collection, they would not have been something he would have been likely to have heard much from, if at all. From the time the Band put out their first album onward, there isn’t much evidence of Elvis listening to that type of music. His exposure from that point until the end seemed to be much more along the lines of very mainstream middle of the road stuff to country and some Too 40.
     
  13. I333I

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    He didn’t have a band during this time.

    But my response to the OP is no.
     
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  14. FunkFather

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    He did keep up with developments in the gospel field to a degree in the ‘70s, which led to him recruiting the white gospel group Voice for his concerts from 1973. The trio included Donnie Sumner, son of Elvis’ legendary gospel bass singer J.D. Sumner.

    There is of course the fantastic story of Elvis being introduced to Eric Clapton. Elvis didn’t recognise/hadn’t heard of him and said, ‘I can introduce you to my great guitar player James Burton from my band, son, who could show you some useful stuff ‘.

    Elvis had heard of Led Zeppelin by the mid-70s (via younger family members who hipped him to them) and actually met them backstage a couple of times. He apparently said they weren’t really his kind of music though.

    He also attended concerts by Elton John and the Jacksons when his daughter Lisa Marie wanted to go.
     
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  15. George Blair

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    Elvis being told about The Band:
    "El, they have a great song called "The Weight."
    "Uh Huh. Is it about me?"
    "No, there's a guy in it called Virgil Cane."
    "Oh yeah, my Daddy knew him... "
     
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  16. cwitt1980

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    Maybe some of the guys in Elvis's band were influenced but sort of doubt Elvis was. Elvis was already dabbling in his getting back to the roots stuff in '67 with stuff like "Guitar Man" when The Band was just a blip on anyone's radar. I do think he would have done some pretty great versions of their stuff if he was tuned into them.
     
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  17. S. P. Honeybunch

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    :laugh:
     
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  19. malco49

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    i am not feeling any direct connection between the music of the band and elvis.
     
  20. PacificOceanBlue

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    Steve Binder and Chips Moman invigorated Elvis' music in 1968-1969.
     
  21. Saint Johnny

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    I always thought it was boredom and being defined as mostly 'washed up', and 'has-been', by most observers, that is what invigorated Elvis in '68, culminating in the TV special.
     
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  22. Jon-A

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    I think saying The Band 'helped' all those musicians doesn't entirely capture the nature of their broad influence. With Clapton, for example, they played a major role in turning an indulgent (yet dazzling) Blues appropriator into a humdrum narcoleptic Americana poser. Not exactly a success story IMO.

    Regarding the main question - Elvis certainly used blasts from the musical past to reinvigorate his thing, but did he ever embrace the rough-hewn, loose rustic charm that typified The Band? Not being rhetorical there - I don't know his later discography that well...
     
  23. Trashman

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    This was the answer I thought of when I read the thread title.
     
  24. CatchAsCan

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    The Band didn't influence that many people. They existed alongside other acts that were less psychedelic, such as CCR and Canned Heat, so you could credit those bands about as much as the Band. Also, Elvis had 50s contemporaries who were being booked both in Nevada and at rock clubs.
     
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  25. PepiJean

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    And his own TCB band too.
    I think that, in the summer of 1969, while rehearsing with his new live band, Elvis must have felt euphoric trying out all kind of genres (Rock, R&B, Pop, Soul, etc) until figuring out the final tracklist for his very first Vegas season. I can imagine him listening to The Band but not being influenced by it: he already had a clear vision of what he wanted to present at that particular moment. Too bad he deviated so much from it during the following years...
     

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