Is it me or the CS 6006 CD of Black Sabbath is the best version ever ?

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  1. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    My fave would be Virtual Death from Cross Purposes. I favor this over the other Martin albums because Geezer returned.
     
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  2. Dissidence

    Dissidence Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Tony Iommi on Twitter

    Anyway, to all of you, don't forget than the 6006 and 6006-2 CDs are totally different between them. With or without pre-emphasis filter experimentation...
     
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  3. BrentB

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    The Paranoid is the one with the black text on silver disc. 449806-2. As far as the Sold Our Souls CD set I don't remember much of any noises. Admittantly I don't play it much as I have a Japan 2lp set that is wonderful. I will keep an ear out for any. I picked it up mainly because it was 1.00 and has all of the tracks unlike the US, which I never bought.
     
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  4. Music_dude

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    Did Tony abandon his slack tuning technique on Sabotage? The guitar sound is so different from let’s say, MOR. Sounds like standard tuning to me...
     
  5. blacksabbathrainbow

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    AFAIK, from MOR through Sabotage, the guitars on most (not all) songs were tuned down by 1.5 steps. Standard tuning on the debut, Paranoid, TE and NSD. From HaH through 13 and The End, it was mostly 0.5 steps down; on Born Again, 1.0 step down.

    That's the basic picture. A few songs were played in different tuning than others, and mostly the tuning is a tad higher or lower than standard 440Hz.

    I agree the guitar sound on Sabotage is very different from MOR, but I don't know why. Maybe different amps or guitars or effects were used? Btw, I find the sound on SBS quite different from MOR as well.
     
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  6. Dissidence

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    Totally correct. Checked on my bass. C#
     
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  7. blacksabbathrainbow

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    Here's a discussion on Sabbath's tunings:
    Tuning Down
     
  8. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    Hey I play bass too. Very nice.
     
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  9. Dissidence

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    C or C# tuning on bass or guitar is rather insane. Custom guitars since MoR sure. Shorter neck I think.
     
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  10. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    It's the opposite. Longer neck for bass, special length strings.
    Best thing is to use a 5 string with the low B. You can play all the weird tunings no problem that way. :agree:
     
  11. vinyl diehard

    vinyl diehard Two-Channel Forever

    My fav is the Japanese for Europe. NELCD6002.
     
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  12. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    As far as I know, Sabbath was the first hard rock band to drop tune more than half a step. Now all these modern rock bands do it, not to be heavy, but because the singers just don't have the range to sing in standard tuning.
    It's pretty amusing really. Ozzy could do both, it's pretty obvious Iommi wanted to make the songs heavier and scarier sounding.
     
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  13. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    That's the pressing I have. Plenty of warmth.
     
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  14. Dissidence

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    Geezer Butler Bass Rig - "Know Your Bass Player" (1/3) | Which Bass

    You're surely right now, but at the time (MoR) Geezer's neck scale was shorter (30.5″ scale) than the usual Fender basses (34″ scale).
    But again my bass is an old mid 80s Fender, and I don't know much about the new stuff, other manufacturers, 5-string ones, etc.
    I mostly play keyboards and soprano sax now. :D My bass and guitar take the dust... :hide:
     
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  15. Freezerburn

    Freezerburn Digitally non-identical

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    I'm going by what Spector basses has in their catalog. They sell 36" scale. Back in the good old days they did a lot of strange things to accomplish off the wall tunings and such. Also nobody realized back then that a 10" speaker had better low frequency response than a 15". So they had their bass cabs set up backwards. The four 10 cab should be setup for the lows, not the other way around like back then, and in the 80's.
     
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  16. Music_dude

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    I can’t notice too much of a difference between the 86 Castle and the 2009 remaster for the s/t, aside from a touch more compression on the 2009. I’ve already ruled out the original WB and the red 6006-2. I’m just waiting for the black 6006 to arrive so I can compare and make my final determination.
     
  17. blacksabbathrainbow

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    And what about the SACD? Did you listen to the sample?
     
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  18. MC Rag

    MC Rag Forum Resident

    Love the Intercord sound, still hoping to find Paranoid & SBS as cheap as I got this one:

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