I gave up on DIY speakers when I saw vids of large speaker builders design, test and voice there units. Thousands of hours of R & D go into each model.
Tim, Have you seen the three part video for the tour of Magico and interview with Alon Wolf? It is amazing, but as you said the factory, the gear and the testing is more than anyone could pull off in their garage.
No I haven't seen the Magico tour, I'll try and fine it. I have watched the B&W, Sonus Faber And Revel vids. Amazing the length they go to to make things right.
I've messed with the attenuators a fair bit and like the speakers best w/ them set to "0". Grills off for focused listening.
Has anyone seen the new JBL Classic Black Edition's for sale anywhere yet? Rumors of them shipping by end of '22 were apparently only that. I can't find mention of them on JBL's site either. Just a tease?
Do you have a pair? If so, the right setting is gonna be totally dependent on your room and upstream gear. The beauty is you CAN play with them and let your ears decide what's right. After a little trial and error, I found I like to have the treble knob up a bit when I have the grills on, since the grills tame the highs a little bit. They do sound clearer with the grills off, in which has case I dial the HF knob on them back a bit. Curious what you find out.
How do you like yours compared to other speakers you have had? I am considering another pair for fun, I have never had a JBL, so the 82s sound like a good fit potentially. It would be for a 6-8ft wide setup.
I have the L82's in my home office and really like them. I think you would enjoy them in your setup. A couple of reasons... They come in mirror image pairs so you can orient the tweeters to either the inside or outside. Outside may work best in your "6-8ft wide setup" but you would try both and decide for yourself. Having the 'tweeter' adjustment really helps dial them in to: Your taste.. your room (dead or alive).. your equipment. They are an easy load on an amp. I've used SS, Tube, and SET with them. Good luck.
Hello guys, I audition Revel f206 and jbl l100. Love both but more JBL, that bass, bigger fuller sound. My concern I audition klh model 5 but in different shop, so can't compare. Do the double price is equal to double SQ? Also i plan to buy Moonriver 404, 50w but very strong Amp,
I've found price points to be mostly irrelevent to my enjoyment. For instance, I've heard speakers many times the L100's price that I didn't like better, or even as much. I know, I'm somewhat biased. The KLH does seem to be a very nice option though, but the only way to really tell is to spend a decent amount of time with each, and decide which one grabs you in the end.
I highly doubt anyone directly comparing them would claim the JBLs to be 'twice' as good. The real question is how much of a premium are you willing to pay for the iconic and unique JBL design.
Guys, I do not have a horse in this race so I am not suggesting which is better. I also know that both JBL and KLH have made improvement in their drivers since the time of the originals. I started off back in the early 1970's with a pair of 2way JBL's. They had the typical JBL sound. In the 1970's I also heard many systems that had AR3's and KLH5's. Back then the difference between JBL and the acoustic suspension speakers was huge especially in the bass. FWIW, my guess is comparing JBL to KLH is still very much apples to oranges in the bass.
My only other set of speakers are KEF Ref 1's (the stand mounts). Totally different beast and retail for what . . . 4x the price? That said, I love both sets of speakers for different reasons. My JBL's are in my living room with a TD125 turntable and Muzishare X7 integrated (much more about fun vibe/design/casual listening). I've got the KEF's in my basement which is more of a focused listening space. The JBL's are more fun/less critical and sound great for all types of music. I once put them in the basement and did a shootout with my reference 1's and they still held their own surprisingly well in the soundstage/detail department.
Has anyone been able to hear the 75th, Black Edition or new MKII L100 or L82 models that all appear to have the same "performance package" upgrades. How do they to compare with the Classic versions that are being closed out?
All I know is that their existence led to a price drop on the legacy models got me a $400 credit from Crutchfield. I’d expect very little sonic difference to be honest. No way to audition them so I’d have to trade mine or sell em, not worth the trouble.
well I ordered a "B-Stock" pair and they arrived today. Brand new sealed from JBL with no irregularities I can find. Manufactured in July with very close serial numbers. Just fired them up for the maiden voyage...obviously Grateful Dead with the McIntosh amp
I ordered b-stock from music direct last year and the salesman said they are usually brand new but marked b-stock because they can't run sales on the as "new" Idk how true it was, but my came brand new as well.
I am planning to do a retro 70s basement in the next year and want these for it. Should I buy them soon? Are they discontinuing production of the classic? I thought I read that
Right now Crutchfield has good prices on the L82’s and L100’s. When the new models come out they will be, already are much more expensive, especially the L 100. I’d grab em now.
