Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Progatron, Jun 21, 2022.
There should at least be a flat transfer on the DVD, right?
Waffling on this one. I've got the Wilson single cd, with a nice 22-page booklet; and an original vinyl with newspaper. I'd gain 80 more book pages, plus a 5.1 for someday when I can play it. Shelf uniformity is fun, but not a deciding factor. The thicker book is the primary draw. Gluttony the downside. (To have enough is to be wealthy.)
Why does the Rhino page say:
New stereo and 5.1 mixes by Steven Wilson
New? How can it be new, if it's a repress, right?
It was “new” when it was produced. All they are doing is printing more copies.
Ordered from Amazon. This is the only set I’m missing. I’m happy with the CD/DVD reissue. Completism is a satisfying factor, but it will also be nice to have the 5.1 mix. I assume it will feature the newer, non-Mew mastering.
If I remember correctly, Mew didn’t master the 5.1 mix. But the DVD had errors, hence the need for a corrected DVD.
It’s a plot . . .
So what exactly is “Deluxe” about this 50th Anniversary edition?
You get the SW remix and reconstructed 12 page newspaper. Burning Shed calls it:
Thick As A Brick (50th Anniversary Edition). No “Deluxe”.
Edit: Maybe a kind GORT could take “Deluxe” off the thread title?
My sources say that this is officially being called “The 10th Anniversary of the 40th Anniversary Edition”.
Rhino does that kind of thing. Some of their Monkees reissues refer to "previously unreleased" recordings that, while unreleased originally, have been on the market since 1987.
Sounds like you have great sources!
My book deluxe set has the flat transfer of the original mix, yes.
The vinyl price listed at Burning Shed makes it very special…
For us within the EU, JPC seems like a better deal than Burning Shed.
From Rhino Records I got mine for about $25 before shipping.
Im assuming it will be listed on Amazon UK at some point soon.
So, is it fair to say this is the 2012 book version with the corrected DVD?
When the set was first released, buyers had to write afterwards and ask for a corrected DVD to be sent. After that when sealed copies came on the secondary market, buyers had to hope they were Charlie, opening and finding the Golden Ticket or a DVD with the underline. To be sure you got a corrected DVD copy, buyers had to pay a premium and hope their used copy was graded correctly.
This set takes all that drama out of that, at what, $25 bucks a pop in the US? For a new, sealed, corrected 2012 book set? There is great worth in that for me.
Now we can project... I wish it was, i.e. I wish it had the 2015 CD in place; I wish it had extra discs of outtakes and live tracks. But for what it is, after all the drama in searching for this set in years past that preceded this release, I think this is worth it.
Mew absolutely mastered the 5.1 mix originally.
On the corrected 2012 DVD, the 5.1 mix was tweaked a bit and was presented without Mew's mastering.
No, it's not fair to say that because we don't know what masterings of the stereo remix and 5.1 will be on the DVD (or the CD). The crux of the issue seems to be that the 5.1 mix was determined to contain errors so that was "fixed" for the replacement DVD...but many of us felt that the mastering of the stereo mix was very unpleasant even if it didn't contain errors per se, and the powers that be presumably felt that it was adequate because the replacement DVD had the same mastering it.
I'm not sure anyone here wants a duplicate of the replacement DVD. A third version of the DVD, with no Mew-mastered content whatsoever, would be better.
As I have the original book set and obtained the corrected DVD, my assessment is the only aspect I don't have is the non-Mayhew Wilson stereo mix (which I know is currently available on physical CD or HDTracks hi-res download). I just didn't get around to obtaining that, but at this point I suppose it makes sense to wait and find out if the new set will just be a copy of the corrected disc, or if it will contain the non-Mayhew Wilson stereo as well as a 5.1 mastering that differs from both releases to date (the original and the corrected).
This is drifting toward The Who/Doors/Genesis territory where I have to write notes to keep track of what is what
Ugh. So much for “memory “.
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