Jethro Tull Too Old To Rock and Roll too young to Die! deluxe 2016

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  1. tootull

    tootull All elements agree

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    Thank you.
    One more.
     
  2. Galeans

    Galeans Forum Resident

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    Which multitracks are missing?
     
  3. Lord Hawthorne

    Lord Hawthorne Currently Untitled

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    No mention of the quadraphonic mixes.
     
  4. tootull

    tootull All elements agree

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    Trying to clear this list up: :)

    Disc: 4
    Bonus tracks:

    1. Salamander's Rag Time (Steven Wilson Mix)
    2. Commercial Traveller (Steven Wilson Mix)
    3. A Small Cigar (Steven Wilson Mix) [Acoustic Version]
    4. Strip Cartoon (Steven Wilson Mix)
    5. Salamander's Rag Time (Steven Wilson Mix)
    6. Commercial Traveller (Steven Wilson Mix)
    7. A Small Cigar (Steven Wilson Mix) [Acoustic Version]
    8. Strip Cartoon (Steven Wilson Mix)
    9. Quiz Kid (Version 1)
    10. One Brown Mouse (Early Version) [Original Master Mix]
    11. Salamander (Steven Wilson Mix) [Instrumental]
    12. Strip Cartoon
    13. A Small Cigar (Orchestrated Version) [Original Rough Mix]
    14. Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die! (Demo) [Steven Wilson Mix]

    Original 1975 Album Mix
    15. Prelude
    16. Quiz Kid
    17. Crazed Institution
    18. Salamander
    19. Taxi Grab
    20. From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser
    21. Bad-Eyed And Loveless
    22. Big Dipper
    23. Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die!
    24. Pied Piper
    25. The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)

    1976 Quad Mix

    26. Prelude
    27. Quiz Kid
    28. Crazed Institution
    29. Salamander
    30. Taxi Grab
    31. From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser
    32. Bad-Eyed And Loveless
    33. Big Dipper
    34. Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll: Too Young To Die!
    35. Pied Piper
    36. The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)
     
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  5. folkfreak

    folkfreak Forum Resident

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    That must be Pied Piper
     
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  6. tootull

    tootull All elements agree

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    Right! Thank you for being observant.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. tootull

    tootull All elements agree

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    https://www.nika.si/Rock__Rock__Classic_Rock/Too_Old_to_Rock_N_Roll_Too_Young_To_Die/
    Jethro Tull
    Too Old to Rock ‘N’ Roll: Too Young To Die (2015)
    Format: CD+DVD
    Šifra: 825646035519

    CD1 RE-RECORDED ALBUM FOR TV SPECIAL: MORGAN STUDIO, MARCH 1976
    1. Prelude
    2. Quiz Kid
    3. Crazed Institution
    4. Salamander
    5. Taxi Grab
    6. From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser
    7. Bad Eyed And Loveless
    8. Big Dipper
    9. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die!
    10. Pied Piper
    11. The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)
    12. From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser
    13. Bad Eyed And Loveless
    14. Big Dipper
    15. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die!
    16. The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)
    17. Quiz Kid (Version 1) (Monte Carlo Out-take)
    CD2 ASSOCIATED RECORDINGS
    1. Salamander’s Rag Time
    2. Commercial Traveller
    3. Salamander (Instrumental)
    4. A Small Cigar (Acoustic Version)
    5. Strip Cartoon
    6. One Brown Mouse (Early Version)
    7. A Small Cigar (Orchestrated Version)
    8. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die! (Demo)
    9. Prelude
    10. Quiz Kid
    11. Crazed Institution
    12. Salamander
    13. Taxi Grab
    14. From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser
    15. Bad Eyed And Loveless
    16. Big Dipper
    17. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die!
    18. Pied Piper
    19. The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)
    DVD1 AUDIO & VIDEO
    1. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die! - TV film with DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and Dolby Digital Stereo
    2. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die! - TV audio in 96/24 stereo PCM
    3. Five Original LP Tracks with DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM.
    DVD2 ASSOCIATED RECORDINGS
    1. Salamander‘s Rag Time, Commercial (with DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM)
    2. Traveller, A Small Cigar (Acoustic Version) (with DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM)
    3. Strip Cartoon (with DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM)
    4. Quiz Kid (version 1) (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    5. One Brown Mouse (early version) Original Master Mix (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    6. Salamander (Instrumental) (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    7. Strip Cartoon Original Master Mix (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    8. A Small Cigar (orchestrated version) (Original Rough Mix) (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    9. Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die! Demo (in 96/24 stereo PCM)
    10. A flat transfer of the original 1976 Quad LP Production Master with DTS 4.0 and Dolby Digital AC3 4.0 surround sound.
    11. A flat transfer of the original 1976 LP master at 96/24 stereo PCM.
    To follow its stellar 1975 release Minstrel In the Gallery, Jethro Tull’s ambitious plans included a group album, in addition to a stage musical about an aging rock star. Midway through the process, however, the band decided to abandon the stage musical and use the musical songs as the basis for what would become its ninth studio album, Too Old To Rock ‘n’ Roll: Too Young To Die!

    Before the album’s 40th anniversary next spring, Parlophone will release a deluxe edition of TOO OLD TO ROCK ‘N’ ROLL: TOO YOUNG TO DIE! in the fall. This 2CD/2DVD set will be available on November 27.

    Highlights from the set include:

    An unreleased, alternate version of the album recorded for a British television special and remixed by Steven Wilson
    Bonus tracks (18 previously unreleased), all mixed to 5.1 surround and stereo by Steven Wilson
    Flat transfer of the original LP mix at 96/24
    Commercial debut of footage from the television special
    Presented in a case-bound DVD book that includes an 80-page booklet with an extensive history of the album, track-by-track annotations by Ian Anderson, plus rare and unseen photographs
    Includes the gatefold cartoon from the original album drawn by renowned comic artist Dave Gibbons

    TOO OLD TO ROCK ‘N’ ROLL: TOO YOUNG TO DIE! was the band’s first with John Glascock on bass and backing vocals. But it wasn’t just the band dynamic that was changing, the music was evolving too, and this album helped bridge the progressive rock of Tull’s early years with the folk-rock that would shape its musical direction throughout the late Seventies.

    The first disc features an unreleased, alternate version of the album that the band recorded for a British television special. At the time, union rules forbid bands from lip-syncing the original album on television, which is why Jethro Tull found itself in a studio re-recording the album in March 1976. For this deluxe edition, Steven Wilson re-mixed that alternate version of the album, as well as five songs earmarked for the finished album, including “Big Dipper,” “From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser” and the title track.

    It should be noted that the album couldn’t be totally remixed because multi-track recordings for several songs are missing.

    The second CD includes nine rare and unreleased bonus tracks like “Commercial Traveller,” “Salamander Ragtime” and an early version of “One Brown Mouse”, plus a flat transfer of the original album.

    The first DVD includes the commercial debut of the entire British television special along with several audio mixes of the show: DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, and Dolby Digital Stereo. The audio from the special is also included in 96/24 stereo PCM. The five tracks from the original LP are here as well, in DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM.

    The second DVD includes some mixes of the associated recordings in DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and 96/24 stereo PCM. Also featured is a flat transfer of the original LP at 96/24 stereo PCM, in addition to a flat transfer of the original 1976 Quad LP Production Master with DTS 4.0 and Dolby Digital AC3 4.0 surround sound.

    http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=94066&sid=0a468a4f2ce9ebad3cd200ef4bad642b

    http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/for...Too-Young-to-Die-quot-2CD-2DVD-Deluxe-Edition
     
  8. ribors

    ribors Forum Resident

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    Interesting... so on the CD side, disc one is the re-recorded version remixed by Steve Wilson and disc two has the original mix as a "flat transfer", but starting with track 9? Strange they put the bonus tracks ahead of the album proper on disc 2.

    How do the tv special re-recorded tracks compare to what was released as the original album? Are there large differences between the two (or at least interesting variations)? I'm surprised that this is the one SW remixed and is being presented as the new main album. Does Ian (and SW) really like it that much more than what was released on the album?
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2015
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  9. Galeans

    Galeans Forum Resident

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    Well... I want it. I didn't realize the multis for much album were missing in action. Looking forward to hear it and to hear "Commercial Traveller". A pity about "Advertising Man", but maybe the booklet will explain the situation.
     
  10. Super_Slick

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  11. Daniel Falaschi

    Daniel Falaschi Live detective Thread Starter

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  12. mmars982

    mmars982 Forum Resident

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    Someone should change the year in the thread title. I've been ignoring this for a while thinking it was just discussion of what people would like the set to be when it comes out next year. I didn't know it was being released so soon. Nice surprise.
     
  13. bRETT

    bRETT Forum Resident

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    Hold on, was the TV special really a complete re-recording of the album? The sound quality of the clips isn't too great, but everything I've heard sounds like different lead vocals against a different mix of the standard album.
     
  14. Another auto buy for me. I love these sets.
     
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  15. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Auto buy.
     
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  16. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    I need more money.
     
  17. tootull

    tootull All elements agree

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    :cool:
     
  18. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    Yep, complete re-recording.
     
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  19. tonewheeltom

    tonewheeltom Forum Resident

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    Woah, this is turning into one wacky reissue. I love it!

    Although, I have a feeling we'll wish the original mix got a proper, tasteful remastering, to nicely accompany what SW will do with the alternate takes.
     
  20. Daniel Falaschi

    Daniel Falaschi Live detective Thread Starter

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    SW´s notes:

    Parlophone Records have announced the next in the series of expanded Jethro Tull 40th anniversary sets for release on 27th November, this time for 1976 album "Too Old To Rock’n’Roll: Too Young to Die". “The TV Special Edition" contains my remixes in stereo and 5.1 surround sound. As with the previous three releases in the series, it consists of 2 CDs and 2 DVDs. CD1 contains a 2015 remix of a version of the album re-recorded for a TV special, and remixes of the 5 album multitrack masters that could be located (alas 5 could not). CD2 consists of a complete flat transfer of the original stereo mix, and 8 bonus tracks, 7 of which are 2015 remixes. Among these are 2 previously unheard songs; Salamander’s Ragtime (completely unrelated to album track Salamander), and Commercial Traveller. A further previously announced out-take Advertising Man was ultimately found to be not sufficiently complete to merit inclusion.

    DVD1 features the TV special broadcast in full, making it’s commercial debut and with the remixed soundtrack in high res stereo and 5.1 surround sound. The 5 album track remixes are also included in 5.1 surround sound and high resolution stereo. DVD2 features the bonus tracks in high res audio, 4 also in 5.1 surround sound, and flat transfers of the original stereo and quadraphonic mixes.

    As with all of the Tull deluxe editions, this is a limited run, presented in a case-bound DVD book that includes an 80-page booklet with an extensive history of the album, track-by-track annotations by Ian Anderson, plus rare and unseen photographs.
     
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  21. Daniel Falaschi

    Daniel Falaschi Live detective Thread Starter

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    @ tootull: did you get your name on the credits?
     
  22. Daniel Falaschi

    Daniel Falaschi Live detective Thread Starter

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    A real pitty that the multi tracks for half the album tracks are missing, but in any case I am in principle more than happy to see what will ultimately be released, except for the missing unreleased tracks. Most fans (or at least the ones that buy these reissues) don´t care too much if an unreleased track is in a very embrionic state. Release it! Also a it unconfortable to have the album tracks over and over on 1 CD, but I guess nobody is obligued to listen to it from start to finish every time...
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2015
  23. Galeans

    Galeans Forum Resident

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    I very much agree, but I remember one track from the "Aqualung" sessions, "Pancake Domesday", that was exluded because it was just a backing track with no vocals. Maybe it was the same situation here? I guess this is where Ian drops the line regarding outtakes.

    But yeah, I'd like to hear it the same, maybe even just a special feature on the DVD only. Any unreleased and found Tull is worth preserving, in my opinion.
     
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  24. Daniel Falaschi

    Daniel Falaschi Live detective Thread Starter

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    Well in the special edition of Aqualung´s booklet, in the recording chronography, alternate takes of Aqualung, Locomotive, etc are displayed. Do they actually exist on the multis?
     
  25. rstamberg

    rstamberg Senior Member

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    Oh yeah!
     

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