Jimi Hendrix 5CD Box Set of '70 Fillmore East Concerts Due Nov. 22, 2019

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  1. Deek57

    Deek57 Forum Resident

    I’m ok thanks, no apology needed.
     
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  2. Deek57

    Deek57 Forum Resident

    Anyway, roll on tomorrow, mine is on the way. CD box that is.
     
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  3. Wayne Hubbard

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    Another interview with Buddy. This time on performing "Stop."

     
  4. I have had this set for a few days now but I have only listened to the first two discs. It sounds phenomenal and I am really digging it.
     
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  5. monkboughtlunch

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    do liner notes address / explain the missing songs?
     
  6. vinyldreams

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    Wait until tomorrow.
     
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  7. Mullin

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    Mine is on its way.... already shipped and will arrive tomorrow
     
  8. Experiencereunited

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    So initial reports are this CD release has not fallen victim to the loudness wars? I have been holding out for the vinyl as yet due to not wanting to chance a CD release full of clipping, over compression and general harsh loudness.
     
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  9. I did not see any mention of missing songs in the liner notes. I am just starting to read the liner notes today but they are nice with nice photos.
     
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  10. Bernie Grundman did a fantastic job with this set. I have the CD set which I received from Bull Moose on Tuesday.
     
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  11. KCLizard

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    Actualy, I am hoping someone will post the DR values of the boxset, then I will decided , if it is for me or not. Thanks to all who are reporting first impression upon hearing the CDs boxset.

    I want to avoid at all cost an ELL 50th anniversary kind of release.
     
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  12. jhm

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    I think you guys are going to be pleased with these! Sounds like someone at EH is finally listening!

    Disc 1 is the least dynamic because I suspect it's just a clone of the 2016 Machine Gun release. The DR numbers for Disc 1 for Groovy Children match up with that release. The other discs are nice and dynamic (IMO). Only "Wild Thing" from the last show seems to be somewhat low, but it's still a 9!

    For the obsessives like me, you'd still need the SACD of Machine Gun if you wanted a more dynamic 31-Dec-69 1st show. I suspect most will be just fine with it as is though.

    DR10 0.00 dB -11.20 dB 5:30 01-Power of Soul (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -12.14 dB 3:14 02-Lover Man (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.11 dB 9:06 03-Hear My Train a Comin' (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -12.22 dB 5:58 04-Changes (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.17 dB 3:29 05-Izabella (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.90 dB 8:54 06-Machine Gun (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.74 dB 5:30 07-Stop (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.17 dB 5:55 08-Ezy Ryder (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -12.98 dB 6:38 09-Bleeding Heart (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -11.65 dB 6:24 10-Earth Blues (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
    DR10 0.00 dB -12.85 dB 9:40 11-Burning Desire (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 1st Set)
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    Number of tracks: 11
    Official DR value: DR10
    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 16
    Bitrate: 883 kbps
    Codec: FLAC

    Analyzed: Jimi Hendrix / Songs for Groovy Children: The Fillmore East Concerts

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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR11 0.00 dB -13.51 dB 3:54 01-Auld Lang Syne (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.70 dB 8:40 02-Who Knows (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -14.07 dB 5:15 03-Fire (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.20 dB 4:24 04-Ezy Ryder (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -13.23 dB 13:50 05-Machine Gun (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -14.01 dB 17:22 06-Stone Free (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -14.60 dB 8:06 07-Changes (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 -0.33 dB -13.12 dB 3:37 08-Message to Love (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -14.22 dB 7:02 09-Stop (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -12.13 dB 6:45 10-Foxey Lady (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 12/31/69 - 2nd Set)
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    Number of tracks: 10
    Official DR value: DR11
    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 16
    Bitrate: 915 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    Analyzed: Jimi Hendrix / Songs for Groovy Children: The Fillmore East Concerts

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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR12 0.00 dB -14.62 dB 10:52 01-Who Knows (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -13.15 dB 12:38 02-Machine Gun (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -14.07 dB 7:25 03-Changes (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -12.74 dB 6:15 04-Power of Soul (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.24 dB 5:31 05-Stepping Stone (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -12.93 dB 7:21 06-Foxey Lady (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.74 dB 6:07 07-Stop (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.42 dB 8:50 08-Earth Blues (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -14.57 dB 8:57 09-Burning Desire (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 1st Set)
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    Number of tracks: 9
    Official DR value: DR12
    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 16
    Bitrate: 821 kbps
    Codec: FLAC

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    Analyzed: Jimi Hendrix / Songs for Groovy Children: The Fillmore East Concerts
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR11 0.00 dB -12.69 dB 13:12 01-Stone Free (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -12.78 dB 9:11 02-Power of Soul (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.73 dB 9:33 03-Changes (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 0.00 dB -11.79 dB 5:26 04-Message To Love (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.98 dB 11:52 05-Machine Gun (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.30 dB 2:36 06-Lover Man (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR13 0.00 dB -17.00 dB 5:53 07-Steal Away (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -12.51 dB 5:52 08-Earth Blues (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR11 -0.39 dB -13.09 dB 6:01 09-Voodoo Child (Slight Return) (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.99 dB 9:48 10-We Gotta Live Together (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR9 -2.06 dB -13.86 dB 3:14 11-Wild Thing (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 -0.10 dB -12.67 dB 3:56 12-Hey Joe (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
    DR12 0.00 dB -13.34 dB 4:53 13-Purple Haze (Live at the Fillmore East, NY - 1/1/70 - 2nd Set)
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    Number of tracks: 13
    Official DR value: DR12
    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 16
    Bitrate: 855 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2019
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  13. gkella

    gkella Let there be songs to fill the air

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    Amazon.ca had the box for 71.00.
    I asked my wife to order it for me as a Christmas gift.
    Now the price is 108.00 !!
    Quite an increase...
     
  14. Opeth

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    Spinning cd 1 on my headphone rig now, Bull moose FTW arrived today in perfect shape and expert package job. FU amazon. Have every official release of this material plus baggys and original Japanese LP and the recent 2lp and sacd. Nice box all the way around, packaging mastering and price is all done right. Good job EH. This material is legendary IMO
     
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  15. KCLizard

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  16. kanakaris

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  17. Very good. Now we'll just have see if it has one of these:

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  18. jhm

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    I'm sorry, but I think "Steal Away" here is AWESOME! They do it slow blues style a la "Bleeding Heart". Very, very nice! I also think Buddy's vocal sound great too. I think this type of material is really in his wheelhouse though. No scatting or "WHAAAAAS" to be found :)!

    I can see why they edited "Power Of Soul" on the original LP. They probably wanted to make it more "concise" or they were limited by the LP side length. You're over 3 minutes in before the vocals even kick in. It's so cool to have the whole thing now though!

    Oh, and for those of you that like this material and think you can just "do fine" with the boot "Box Of Gypsys", I think you should reconsider. It can't touch the sound quality on this thing. So far it sounds amazing. I'm starting to agree that Bernie might've hit one of the park with his mastering work on this.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2019
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  19. monkboughtlunch

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    You’re right. Let’s just discuss shipping dispatch notices for now instead of hearing about substantive box set content from those who already have the box set in hand.
     
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  20. No tuning issues that caused the cut? That's what I had always heard from people (I wonder where that idea started anyway, if it's a false rumor).
     
  21. jhm

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    There are a couple of "interesting" parts that sound odd, but to my uneducated ears, no serious tuning issues (if at all). Nothing like "Wild Thing", that's for sure! I clocks in at over 9 minutes, which was more of a reason to edit it IMO. I'd rather they'd left this song intact (or close to it) and cut down on "We've Got To Live Together" honestly, but, as they say, it's already in the history books.
     
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  22. ARK

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    I think you missed the joke
     
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  23. hbbfam

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    I plan on getting this from local tomorrow. I am always worried about the SQ of these new releases. I, for one, would be grateful for a few more of the sound critiques before spending.
     
  24. JayB

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    I'll trust my ears but those are some pretty nice looking DR values jhm posted!
     
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  25. jhm

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    They do not. There are two essays, one by Billy Cox, and a credits page only. There are a lot of cool photos I've never seen before though :righton:!
     
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