John Lennon Imagine 2018 Boxed Set (Content and Sound Quality Issues Only!)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by lennonology, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. Trainspotting

    Trainspotting Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Yeah, Thanks for the video. I looked for it under the title "Well" last night in iTunes and couldn't find it. May have to find it on some CD comp and get it that way.
     
  2. ccbarr

    ccbarr Forum Resident

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    Iowa, USA
    I don't have 5.1, but I ripped the album and singles to 24/96 and the songs sound amazing on my Pono in balanced mode. It really feels like a new album, everything is so crystal clear, but it has life too. There is a bit more bass than on the older versions, but I don't mind. Listening to "Imagine" and "Jealous Guy" sent shivers down my spine, really got to me. And I forgot how fun a song "Oh Yoko!" really is. Really am enjoying that song. "Power To The People" is probably the best sounding song I've heard so far, I've never heard it have so much life to it, nothing sounds muddy to me, clear, lots of punch and you hear everything.

    I'm not good a reviewing sound, but just wanted to share what I heard. Now it is time to start tagging all the outtakes.
     
  3. chris8519

    chris8519 Forum Resident

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    Seattle, WA
    I’m convinced it’s mixing choices. The new remix definitely tried to retain the original mix’s timbre. Which is okay— it’s nice to have 3 choices of this album!
     
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  4. Harry Hotspur

    Harry Hotspur Forum Resident

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    Got double album and really enjoy alt versions of three songs not keen on in released versions, Happy Xmas, Power To People and I Don't Wanna Be A Soldier.
     
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  5. guy1

    guy1 Forum Resident

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    UK
    I have the clear vinyl version & there is a bit of noise on some tracks. Its a shame this seems to have been pressed with poor quality control. It's not horrendous but annoying. Oh and I cleaned it & its no different.
     
  6. Darrin L.

    Darrin L. Forum Resident

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    I actually despise "Power to the People", but the alt version is quite enjoyable. I guess it was always the Spectorized, bombastic production that I despised.
     
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  7. NumberEight

    NumberEight Came too late and stayed too long

    No, you were right all along. The song is simply not worthy of Lennon. In my opinion.
     
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  8. Darrin L.

    Darrin L. Forum Resident

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    Well...to be honest, a number of them are not worthy of Lennon, and the material really hasn't aged well. I mean..."I Don't Wanna be a Soldier" has no redeeming quality. I was watching a movie he rehearsal video of "How Do You Sleep" and couldn't help but think how lifeless, and uninspired it was. It's no wonder Klaus looks so bored.
     
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  9. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    Same with me, except I have the standard version.
     
  10. Choba b CCCP

    Choba b CCCP Forum Resident

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    Russia
    Agreed. 2018 stereo remix might be a slight improvement over the original 1971 stereo mix, but 1999 stereo remix is a winner. Just check out "Gimme Some Truth" and you'll hear the dramatic difference. How in the world would anyone want to return to the muddy obscured noisy sound after 1999 triumph?
     
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  11. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    Because the original sounds more organic.
     
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  12. chris8519

    chris8519 Forum Resident

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    Seattle, WA
    Agreed, and I usually don’t prefer those muddy original mixes. But like the latest Music From Big Pink, the 1999 mix is definitely more sterile. Not bad just different— if I want clarity and critical listening, the MFSL is preferred. Which I personally prefer more often.

    But now with the new mix, we can get the best of both worlds (kind of): clarity of the MFSL with organic, sludginess of the original.

    Edit: Tommyboy, do you prefer the new mix over the original? Does it make the original obsolete for you?
     
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  13. Lord Hawthorne

    Lord Hawthorne Currently Untitled

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    Portland, Oregon
    Anyone have any problems with the CDs? On CD 2, the last song (Happy Xmas) skips in spots, no physical blemishes.
     
  14. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    No, I still listen to the original. I do prefer the new mix, as you astutely mentioned that it’s the best of both worlds. I feel the MoFi is a bit on the clinical side for me.
     
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  15. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    Great name for his profession
     
  16. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

    Location:
    New York
    I must admit the original mix of Gimmie Some Truth is a hot mess.
     
  17. Harry Hotspur

    Harry Hotspur Forum Resident

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    London England
    Danny from the Putrid Family (as MAD magazine would have it). That's funny. Mind you, life on the set of that show was pretty wild by all accounts. Of course, MAD magazine had David/Keith singing 'I Think I Love Me'.
     
  18. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Senior Member

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    London Town
    I Don’t Wanna Be A Solder (Take 11) sounds more POB than Imagine! Good stuff :)
     
  19. Graham

    Graham Senior Member

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    Perth, Australia
    Speak for yourself. The latter, especially, is a top tier song and that version is splendid.
     
  20. Sammy Waslow

    Sammy Waslow Just watching the show

    Location:
    Ireland
    Yes, I really like these. I had great fun looking at them while listening yesterday.
    Nicky Hopkins electric piano left channel... wait for it... yes, there it is.
    John harmonica bounced all over ... oh, very effective.
    A very welcome addition.
     
  21. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

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    Nottingham, UK
    Was I the only one who thought it extremely tactless and unnecessarily cruel to use video from the session as a pre-release sampler?
     
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  22. lennonology

    lennonology Formerly pas10003 Thread Starter

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    St. Louis, MO
    I've not yet been able to enjoy the 5.1 mixes. Has anyone checked to see if the stereo "Ultimate Mixes" on Disc One are simply folded down versions of their 5.1 counterparts on Disc Five - or are they unique stereo mixes?

    Chip Madinger
    www.lennonology.com
     
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  23. beatlesaint

    beatlesaint Forum Resident

    Never been too fond of I Don’t Wanna Be A Soldier but the 5.1 Raw Studio Mix is wonderful, Klaus is really cooking on bass right behind me :D
     
  24. soundQman

    soundQman Senior Member

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    Arlington, VA, USA
    Good last name for the job!
     
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  25. soundQman

    soundQman Senior Member

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    Arlington, VA, USA
    The story was that John always wanted to process his voice and layer it with production tricks because he didn't like the plain recorded sound of it. I don't like mine either. :laugh: Phil Spector indulged his fantasies too much, more than George Martin. Now, since John's demise we've had Yoko and other people try to bring it out more and strip the reverb some, and put out raw mixes, paring back the backing instrumentation some, etc. First with the Double Fantasy album, and now with Imagine. Very enjoyable and tasteful, and I applaud them for their efforts. I enjoy John's voice just as it is naturally, too. I notice that the sound of the bass playing is more powerful and articulate, too, on this set, but not overly heavy. Good old Klaus. Love it.
     
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