John Sebastian / Lovin' Spoonful

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by albabe, Jun 17, 2022.

  1. spinyn

    spinyn Senior Member

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    The Lovin' Spoonful never get credit for being an "Americana" forerunner. The Byrds do, not Lovin' Spoonful.
     
  2. dance_hall_keeper

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  3. JamieC

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    Just for those who did not know John's father was considered a virtuoso.
     
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  5. Chee

    Chee Forum Resident

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    Zally's LP and that Revelation album were deep and thick at 99 cents in 1974.
     
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  6. ajsmith

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    Priceless!
     
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  7. ajsmith

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    !!!! Now that I did not know. Kinda makes it seem more legit.
     
  8. DISKOJOE

    DISKOJOE Boredom That You Can Afford!

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    He even looks a little like his son. One of his friends was Anthony Burgess, author of A Clockwork Orange, who mentioned him in his autobiography.
     
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  9. bumbletort

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    To the starter of this thread: Bless You.
     
  10. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    "The Prophet" and "Words" are the two tracks Zal plays on.
     
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  11. Michael Macrone

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    Maybe it's just me, but I always thought that Wes Stace (a.k.a. John Wesley Harding) has a voice very reminsicent of John Sebastian's—in tone, textures, and tessitura (different accent, though). Listen to "Welcome Back," and then try this:

     
  12. BEBOPALULA

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    I play Night Owl Blues for friends that listen to the blues. They are always amazed when they find out it's the Lovin' Spoonful. It's the flip side of Daydream i think.
     
  13. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...


    Yeah.

    Sebastian's and Arlo Guthrie's on-stage patter at Woodstock was waaay embarrassing -- even at the time.

    Though I thought their performances were both excellent.
     
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  14. Headfone

    Headfone Nothing Tops A Martin

    A side note of possible interest. Post-Spoonful Yanovsky went on to co-produce (along with Jerry Yester and Erik Jacobsen) a really nice debut album for The Fifth Avenue Band. The album deserves a listen (if you can find it).
     
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  15. Kent Gray

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    I swear John Lennon copied John Sebastian's look. The latter was sporting spectacles in 1965, Lennon didn't until 1966. Sebastian had the mutton chops by 1966, Lennon sported his in 1968. Lennon even combed his hair the same way as Sebastian.

    [​IMG] 1966


    [​IMG] 1968
     
  16. JamieC

    JamieC Senior Member

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    I disagree. On Arlo's part I will say that's exactly 1969 Arlo on stage. Sebastian's was way more real John OFF stage as he was seriously tripping and had not planned to perform hanging out backstage. They roped him into an acoustic fill in. So just remember he's tripping bellz.
     
  17. simoncm

    simoncm Forum Resident

    Quite right - in both the USA and the UK.
     
  18. dance_hall_keeper

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    And a connection with "Ethel Mertz"... who knew?

    He had "mutton chop" sideburns that every (almost) High School Male would've loved to have.
     
  19. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    I've been looking up the superb quality colour Ed Sullivan appearances that the official ES channel has been uploading. Ed had them on 3 times in 1967, not that I'm complaining but I'm surprised that they appeared that many times in one year on the show (two of them were within 2 months of each other!)

    The first appearances, Jan 22nd 1967, an all live 'Nashville Cats'

     
  20. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    The other song from the 22nd, 'Darling Be Home Soon', with Zal impishly lampooning JS sensitive spotlight midway through:

     
  21. ajsmith

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    The were back on March 19th that year with 3 songs, interestingly all 'oldies' from 1965 and 1966. Seems kinda odd, although I wonder if it was to promote their first Best Of album which had come out the previous month. Although the Zal sung 'Bald Headed Lena' isn't on that either!

     
  22. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    They then performed (miming this time for obvious reasons) their debut hit 'Do You Believe In Magic?' with some memorably trippy special effects that I still can't work out how they would have been achieved in 1967. When I used to see this clip in docs and the like, I always thought 'wow those are some very psychey set designs for 1965!' It was only the other day I realised that's because it's a 1967 clip of them miming a 1965 song:

     
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  23. ajsmith

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    'Daydream' was the final song they performed on March 19th:

     
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  24. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    Their 3rd and final appearance on Ed Sullivan was on October 15th 1967, with the Jerry Yester line up performing 'She Is Still A Mystery' and 'Only Pity, What A Pity'. The Ed Sullivan Youtube channel has only uploaded the latter so far but we live in hope. With Zal gone, Butler singing the lead and the very different sound, this song presetns a jarring contrast to the first 2 appearances: the folk/blues/jug band gumbo of the classic Spoonful is gone overnight and we're confronted with a more contemporary but I would bet many agree with me less distinctive or compelling sound and image. It's odd to think these 3 appearances all happened inside just 10 months.

     
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  25. dance_hall_keeper

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    Ed Sullivan knew real musical talent when he saw/heard it. That’s why his show was so great
     
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