I think this has been discussed upthread by people who are more in the know than I am, anyway based on my experience: sets that are waiting to be sold, will be sold. The next reprint (who knows when? if ever), will probably address the issue. But in the medium term (provided they do decide to take action, and based on some reports this seems to be the case) the most likely option is a replacement disc for those who have purchased the set.
I listened to the vinyl box after receiving it last week. Excellent sound on all 5 LPs. Bernie Grundman did a really great job on the remastering. I have NM originals for 2 of the titles, Court and Hissing, and the remasters are at least as good. All my discs are flat and quiet. The covers are beautifully done to replicate the originals. Excellent release and well worth the money for a 5 LP, 4 title set.
Not true. https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/xmlui/bitst...ion 2016 Published.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y "We undertook a systematic review and meta-analysis to assess the ability of test subjects to perceive a difference between high resolution and standard, 16 bit, 44.1 or 48 kHz audio. All 18 published experiments for which sufficient data could be obtained were included, providing a meta-analysis involving over 400 participants in over 12,500 trials. Results showed a small but statistically significant ability of test subjects to discriminate high resolution content, and this effect increased dramatically when test subjects received extensive training." Now back to Joni!
Yes, you're right, "close to zero" was a bit of an exaggeration on my part. But I guess you know what statistically significant stands for: "The significance level for a study is chosen before data collection, and is typically set to 5% or much lower—depending on the field of study". So, "small but statistically significant" might be around the 5% ballpark. And true, it can dramatically improve with training (dramatically, statistically, might be double that 5%, which would be a 100% improvement) - but it is also well known to dramatically decrease with age, so if you're past your fifties - forget about it. Now back to Joni!
I'm curious for those that got the vinyl boxset. Do you replace the poly-lined inner sleeves that the records come in with archival sleeves like those from Mofi and others? Long-term, is it better to house them in the latter?
hemming and hawing on these box sets - I have all of these records as OGs in VG++ or better vinyl (but the jackets conditions are lacking, I'll admit) - I ordered the standalone Blue that just came out, but the sets overall seem like good value - just not sure which way to go here...
Maybe the others, besides Roses will get individually released. I have all the originals in excellent condition and went ahead and got the box...if that helps.
Got my vinyl set from the Joni Mitchell store yesterday. Haven't had time to play any of it yet but on first inspection, all of the vinyl looks good except for one small scuff on side one of Court and Spark. No idea how that's going to actually sound. Two of the records do have seem splits on the outer sleeves but that isn't enough for me to raise a stink about. However, the box does seem ever so slightly too small to house the records and it seems like they're kind of being squashed inside of it. Are others still choosing to keep the albums in the box or are you storing them outside of it? Just curious.
I must admit, I have not noticed this to be a problem at all. I’ve had two boxes here too. The first had nonfill issues on a couple of the LPs. The next was completely acceptable. The sound Is of the hook IMO. No issues with the size of the box for me.
OK. It's entirely possible I'm being too critical! My first album to play will be Court and Spark to see if those scuffs are going to be an issue or not.
Just got through listening to my vinyl set and I’ve got to say I’m totally blown away. Court and Spark sounds like a brand new album and all of the vinyl is dead quiet and perfect. Hissing is my favorite album from this period but every album in this set is definitive IMO. This is also the first time I’ve heard Miles of Aisles and many of the songs on it could easily be considered the versions to own. Absolutely stunning. This set is worth every penny.
I'm surprised there isn't more chatter about this set on here. This set is right up there with the best vinyl reissues I own. Maybe everyone is just too busy listening to the music to comment.
I agree with you and and I have and buy a lot of the reissues that have been coming out these days. Maybe it didn't cost enough? Maybe it wasn't put out by one of the reissue labels at 45 RPM? Maybe the YouTube vinyl Community didn't get behind it? Seriously, it could be because tons of people have originals and they reissued a few of these recently (10-15 years) by some of the better mastering engineers.
You’re probably right. It’s probably my own bias as until two years ago, I had no vinyl and all of my Joni albums were on CD. That being said, the vinyl in this set is top notch. Although Court and Spark is the most revelatory for me, I keep coming back to The Hissing of Summer Lawns; probably because it’s my favorite of this set.
That was covered earlier in the thread. Track 4 is at the right volume (that is, the cross-fade from "People's Parties" to "Same Situation" works smoothly). Track 5 is 1.5 dB quieter.
I picked up the recent stand-alone release of Blue mastered by Bernie Grundman. I assume it’s the same mastering, but not sure. It’s pressed in Germany though, not RTI, and the jacket is not a tip-on style as far as I can tell (I left the shrink on, but pretty sure it’s a cheap card stock). Can someone post the deadwax from the box set pressing of Blue? Didn’t see it on Discogs. Stand-alone is as follows: Side 1: BL32950-0^ A^ BG R1-2038-A 0603497844 174 Side 2: BL32950-0^ B^ BG X1E R1-2038-B 0603497844 173
Matrix / Runout (Side A Blue etched): R1-2038-A 603497844173 37405.1(3)... BG Matrix / Runout (Side B Blue etched): R1-2038-B 603497844173 37405.2(3)... BG www.discogs.com/release/19358584-Joni-Mitchell-The-Reprise-Albums-1968-1971
Just posted on Joni Mitchell’s official website, confirming the sources for the box set. (@SRC ) 19 OCT New 'For The Roses' vinyl releases On October 28, Rhino will mark the 50th anniversary of Joni Mitchell’s 1972 album ‘For The Roses’ with a new black vinyl reissue available at all retailers. An aqua blue pressing will follow on November 11. The color variant is an Amazon exclusive in the US, and will be available at various independent record stores in other territories. Previously available only in the recent ‘Asylum Albums 1972-1975’ box set, the remastered album will now be available on its own, using the same sources as the box set. The records were cut by Bernie Grundman directly from the original analog master tapes, and both variations of ‘For The Roses’ are pressed at Optimal, as the ‘Asylum Albums’ box set was. US links: Black vinyl - Blue vinyl. For other territories, contact your favorite record store for order details.
Thanks for this link! I could've found it myself of course. I just sent them a message. Hopefully, more and more people will message them about this issue.
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned previously on this thread but the issue around the track 'Same Situation' appearing twice appears to be no longer the case on Qobuz. I don't know if this was corrected and when they did it but surely this means the CDs will be corrected soon as well, I hope.
is there a consensus regarding how this set of hi-res downloads compares to the prior hi-res release?