Joy Division/New Order Albums

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Havoc, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    Both Joy Division albums actually were released in the 70’s!
     
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  2. Havoc

    Havoc Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Someone's feisty. :wantsome::wantsome:
     
  3. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    Yes, I certainly feel that way about it too. Which of course can be both a good and a bad thing.
     
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  4. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    Yes, that is true. Well, except for Closer ;):D
     
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  5. Havoc

    Havoc Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    It was presented to me by a friend who quoted a review stating they had finally found a perfect sound. I listened once and just assumed what he told me was right. I was into Stone Roses the Oasis.....etc. and really didn't revisit the album for a while. It's like a warm bath of an album, it does everything right. I just come away neutral I guess. I understand why you love it and understand why others don't give it the time of day........if that makes sense. When it's up in the thread I plan on visiting it pretty intensely. Could be fun.
     
  6. Havoc

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    Who knew we'd get into the whole 1980 is technically part of the 70's thing? :p
     
  7. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    Well, my father was (and for that matter still is) one of those guys, so I have quite some experience on this subject growing up ;)
     
  8. vertigone

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    While Anton Corbijn gets a lot of credit (deservedly), it's actually Kevin Cummins who is responsible for some of the most iconic JD photos. The shot of them on the snowy bridge in the post above is actually Cummins, not Corbijn. He also took these familiar shots...

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  9. Kassonica

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    if ever there was a 5th member it was Martin Hannett....

    The sound of those records is in a big part him.
     
  10. Purple Jim

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    Of course, Kevin Cummins! How could I forget him.
    NME also featured photos of all sorts of artists by Pennie Smith back then. Great days.
     
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  11. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    Well.... even Wikipedia lists 1980 as "first year of the 80's decade". I remember this discussion vividly at the end of 1999 when certain people did their best to convince other people that the Millennium didn't start until the end of 2000:evil:
     
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  12. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    I thought everyone agreed that Wiki wasn't to be trusted? ;)
     
  13. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    Only when they support your opinion:whistle:
     
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  14. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    Yes, but of course. How silly of me! :D
     
  15. BurtThomasWard

    BurtThomasWard Guided by Loke In Memoriam

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    A very good description there! I must have gotten into Technique around '91. I never really fell for the whole grunge-thingie and accordingly went for the British sounds of the time instead that mixed pop, rock and dance-ier influences (Stones Roses, Primal Scream), being a hedonistic little SOB. Funny thing is, after Republic I've never really listened to the newer NO records. I must do something about that now.
     
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  16. C4rl

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    Martin Hannetts contribution on both of Joy Division's albums is criminally overlooked I think, the dark and brooding atmosphere of the albums is really down to Martin in my opinion. All the strange sounds, the natural reverberation of the lift shaft, smashing cups, doors being closed all make for amazing atmospherics in the various songs and most of it is Martins work really.
     
  17. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    It is very interesting to read Hook's and Sumner's books actually. Both of them hated his production style at the time and preferred their raw aggressive live sound.
     
  18. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

    ^ and both have been proved wrong. :)
     
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  19. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Agreed - I find some of the JD live material to be a tough listen.

    Don't even get me started on Warsaw!
     
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  20. nosliw

    nosliw Delivering parcels throughout Teyvat! Meow~!

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    I remember getting a used copy of that Psychic TV album for $2 back in 2000 from a university radio station sell-off at the time!

    Going back to the New Order/Joy Division discussion, I discovered New Order over a couple years ago from the Metal Gear Solid 5 trailer, which Hideo Kojima used "Elegia" in the trailer:



    I fell in love with the song instantly and many dollars later, I got a whole bunch of New Order albums on LP in my collection.

    As for Joy Division, I loved the BBC video of "She's Lost Control" with Ian Curtis doing the epileptic. My first Joy Division record was the UK Transmission 12" single.
     
  21. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Excellent, what a cool way to discover them!
    A buddy of mine, his younger brother back in 85 had a ton of punk and old Cure and New Order Cassettes he used to play. So for me it was because of 'background' music being jammed out of his bedroom that got me started :laugh:
     
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  22. Havoc

    Havoc Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Indeed. I was planning on bringing up his production as a side topic when the thread has some space, looks like it might be a good time?
     
  23. Havoc

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    Possibly the best group photo I have ever seen. They were just waiting for him, not knowing he was taking the photo, very "non rock and roll" yet, iconic and unforgettable.
     
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  24. Stencil

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    Its not really a discussion since there is no year '0'.
     
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    There is if you’re a Buddist or Hindu. Or an astronomer.
     
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