Joy Division/New Order Albums

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Havoc, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. Kenny Lagers

    Kenny Lagers good ears beat good gear

    I recently received a 1980 or 1981 FACTUS repress of Closer. It’s not a true first, but it’s close—it’s from the next run that had the square inner sleeve.

    I’ve spent some time comparing it to the 2020 40th anniversary vinyl pressing and the 2001 Heart and Soul CD box set (both from Rhino).

    Well, OG vinyl did it again.

    The drums are so much better, across every single track, on the OG. I’m such a Stephen Morris fan already, but this might truly be the first time I’ve heard his JD work so clearly. The hi-hat in particular sounds lush, instead of sharp and crashy.

    The band's overall blend is more harmonious, too—literally, I can hear the tonal interplay between Bernard and Hooky much better on the OG. As disjointed as Hannett’s production style was alleged to be, this pressing makes the album sound like the work of one band totally locked in musically with each other. There is a coherence with the original that I didn’t even know I was missing in the later editions (sort of like how I felt about hearing the White Album in mono on vinyl for the first time). Ian's voice sits in the mix exactly where it can be most haunting, most affecting.

    This OG pressing sounds like a band of humans. These songs are flesh and blood. Despite the general consensus that this album is “icy,” when I hear this original pressing there is a ton of warmth and even heat here. Even the electronic instruments seem to breathe more deeply—that fabled “air” that digital seems extinguish is present here.

    It's a very musical mix, if that makes sense—the mix is so ear-pleasing that it makes me want to listen to it over and over. There was something about the 40th anniversary edition that my ears didn't like, and I didn't spin it as much as I would have expected. After all this comparing, honestly I think the 2020 vinyl reissue sounds inferior to the Heart and Soul CDs, and neither can compete with this early FACTUS pressing.

    Closer is one of my top 5 albums of all time, so I am always listening to it, but I can tell y'all right now, this particular copy is going to be one of the most played records in my collection.



    Releases referenced in this post:

    Joy Division - Closer

    Joy Division - Closer

    Joy Division - Heart And Soul

    The Beatles - The Beatles
     
  2. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    so now, i'm trying to get 4 of the promo cd-singles from 'music complete',
    i think people on the highline will be hard to find.

    first up: restless
    New Order - Restless

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    New Order ‎– Restless
    Label:
    Mute ‎– 4361-2
    Format:
    CDr, Single, Promo
    Country:
    US
    Released:
    Aug 2015
    Genre:
    Rock, Pop
    Style:
    Alternative Rock, Indie Rock

    Tracklist
    1 Restless (Radio Edit) 3:33
    2 Restless (Album Version) 5:28
    Total Time: 9:01

    later
    -1
     
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  3. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Thanks for the review Ken. Exactly how I felt about the old UK Movement.
    Doesn't surprise me, I've found this to be the case with the early N.O. 7's/12's as well probably up to 86. Early non remastered digitals (where applicable) ie, cd singles/ep's etc.. did a good job as well :)
     
  4. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    some interesting links from new order:

    New Order - New Order - BBC Radio 6 Music Artist Collection: New Order


    BBC Radio 6 Music Artist Collection: New Order
    A series of shows are now available on BBC Sounds as part of the BBC Radio 6 Music Artist Collection. Including the bands headline set on The Other Stage at Glastonbury 2016.



    The First Time with Bernard Sumner >> BBC Radio 6 Music - 6 Music Artist Collection, New Order, The First Time with Bernard Sumner


    New Order, Part 1 >> BBC Radio 6 Music - 6 Music Artist Collection, New Order, The Story of New Order: Part 1

    The Story of New Order, Part 2 >> BBC Radio 6 Music - 6 Music Artist Collection, New Order, The Story of New Order: Part 2

    New Order at Glastonbury 2016 >> BBC Radio 6 Music - 6 Music Artist Collection, New Order, New Order at Glastonbury 2016



    New Order, Sound of a City - Power Corruption and Lies >> https://lnk.to/jv9SpUE6


    The New Order Playlist >> BBC Radio 6 Music - 6 Music Artist Collection, New Order, The New Order Playlist

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  5. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
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  6. johnwilliamhunte

    johnwilliamhunte In the land of Gods and Monsters

    Hi all, I am a fan of Joy Division, although apart from a 12" of Blue Monday '88, which I love, I've never really got into New Order, I did buy their Singles 2CD years ago which I barely remember, so after seeing this thread I'm going to play it again :).
     
  7. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Never come across access to one, especially in good shape to risk at those prices.
    *LP I have
    Canada Emile Lepine cut
    US Qwest Precision
    2009
    *Compact Disc
    West Germany For Canada 11 track
    US Qwest
    UK Nimbus (non metallic)
    Japan Remaster Deluxe 2010
     
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  8. ghoulsurgery

    ghoulsurgery House Ghost

    Location:
    New Jersey
    This is the version I’ve got. I really like the blue
     
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  9. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    going through my cassette boxsets, substance is in beat up shape on the outside,
    need to replace it. but the insides are decent.

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    -1
     
  10. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    brotherhood and lowlife

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  11. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    Power corruption and lies, and the first pic of substance.

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  12. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    rest of substance:

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  13. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    enjoying my 7 inch collection, here's the rest of them:

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    later
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  14. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Great collection neg1!
    PM me if you're looking to part with that extra Touched. I still need the Dub Edit.
     
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  15. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

    Location:
    New England
    I want the extra Substance tracks that were only on the damn cassette format!
     
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  16. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Confusion instrumental on the remaster deluxe, dub on the good old Touched cd single :)
    True Faith Dub?
    Cover's beat up, found this of all places locally for a few bucks couple years ago :)
    But yeah Jeff, some are either missing in good digital mastering's or digital at all. Full length Shell Shock and Shell Cock.
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  17. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

    Location:
    New England
    shame my Brazilian Substance bootleg LP was incomplete...:D
     
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  18. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    No kidding, they even included the Perfect Kiss edit :D :laugh:
     
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  19. adm62

    adm62 Senior Member

    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    OG?
     
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  20. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    The oldies but goodies :)
     
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  21. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    I have so many duplicates, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
    Maybe when I actually sort out what I have, I can figure it out.

    But, yes, will let you know. I'd prefer a trade, looking for some of those confusion
    colored 7 inch promos, or maybe even the tears for fears pale shelted 7 inchers colored,
    or other bands.

    later
    -1
     
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  22. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

    Location:
    USA
    here's my metallic sleeve and PCL covers:
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    brotherhood
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    power corruption and lies
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    later
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  23. Kenny Lagers

    Kenny Lagers good ears beat good gear

    Y’all inspired me to get out my old CD and cassette of Brotherhood.

    I’m chuckling at the note on the back of the CD about how “the Compact Disc can reveal limitations of the source tape.”

    New Order - Brotherhood

    New Order - Brotherhood
     
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  24. Willowman

    Willowman Senior Member

    Location:
    London, UK
    I'm a fan of that cassette series:

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  25. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

    Location:
    Surrey BC.
    They were gorgeous.
     
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