How about SFV starting with The Hellion? Prelude is rapidly followed by Tyrant anyway and it works great. I actually think both work to start the album, Prelude and Victim Of Changes but I prefer Prelude first. And knowing some band members liked "some classical music" it's only logical that if they put this little instrumental and call it Prelude it's to start the album.
As for the album itself. For the longest time it was the only Priest album i liked. Now don't get upset with me, but i found their albums a little ... idk, i want to say dull, but it isn't the right word. Anyhow, i have grown to really like the band a lot, and that owes a lot to enjoying Sad Wings so much. It was always a strikingly brilliant album cover also
The statement is wrong, because it wasn't just the initial pressings. It's the vast majority of albums out there, and every CD except for the box set version. Besides, Prelude could just refer to it being before Tyrant, or even just to side 2. OK: so how many of you, once finding out that Prelude comes 1st (if true), made CD-Rs (or playlists) of your favorite CD/digital version, and actually placed side 2 before side 1? Yeah ... I thought so.
Like it was said the band was no longer associated with the labels that kept pressing the albums probably in the wrong order... What we know for sure is that a couple of years ago Rob said it was his favorite Priest album!
I did. Heck, i did this 30 years ago when my only copy was on cassette. And we're getting into semantics, but the statement does not say only the initial pressing had the sides reversed. It says the original had them reversed, and this one has the intended order. It also says this release was authorized by the band. I don't believe any other release was. I wish I could find something where the band actually clears this up, but I guess they have other things on their mind. It all comes down to what each fan believes. There are a lot who agree with you, and a lot who do not. Enjoy it the way you like.
I did a rip of my SWOD LP and I arranged it with the sides reversed. Starts with "Prelude", ends with "Deciever." It's my go-to version. Sounds great. There, that was easy.
Totally agree. I still have an original vinyl from Discos Mediterraneo (1976). My favourite album from JP and one of my all-time favourites too!
I said way earlier in the thread that I thought Sad Wings was reversed. Glad to see some folks agree with me. I have listened to it this way since I realized the sides were probably reversed. That would probably be when I discovered Discogs about 10 years ago. The original press doesn't list side 1 or 2, but it lists the songs in order with Prelude first and Deciever last. Why would they list side 2 first and 1 last? They wouldn't. It was a mastering error on the first press IMO. Since it was a small record company and an unknown band, no one fixed it early. Since JP basically had no control over the album for quite a while, the record companies just continued to release it as is...they don't care. JP fixing it on the box set tells me this is true. It's an awesome album no matter how you listen to it!
Back in the day, it didn't work like this. Side 1 and Side 2 were treated as different beasts. Today, on CD, of course, it's different, because the tracks run on. However, back in the 70's, it made no more sense having Prelude at the start of Side 1, as it does on Side 2.
Define: Prelude "An introductory piece of music, most commonly an orchestral opening to an act of an opera, the first movement of a suite, or a piece preceding a fugue." So, based upon this, I would expect the Prelude to be the first song on a record. I don't see Side Two as an "Act", "Suite" or "Fugue", but others may see it differently. That is why I prefer the US LP release on Janus, and consider it the correct release that just omits the Prelude entirely. Problem solved... In addition, I consider an Epitaph to be "the final word", so in my reality, it should have been the last song on the record. Personally, I just don't think anyone involved with this release owned a dictionary...
Yeah, this is a good point. They really had to think of good openers and closers for each side, not just the whole album. Something that is lost in the CD-era.
I was around "back in the day" but I still think that "Prelude" works better as a "prelude" to the album than it does to the album side in general since there really is no unifying concept on side 2 to warrant a "prelude." Anyway, if you look on Discogs, every LP release in '76 up until the US release clearly shows the Side 2 program preceding Side 1, so the only thing to tell you that "Victim Of Changes" is the first track is the label, and I still find it very easy to believe that someone at Gull messed up the labels and rather than correct that, they altered the album cover on subsequent pressings. I say, give it a try and listen to the album with side 2 first and draw your own conclusions.
Only the band members will know for sure, imo. I really have no issue with how it currently sits on CD. I don't have any issue with the running order - it is what it is. I don't personally think this is a big issue,. and in a digital age, putting it in any order you want to is easily done. Even on the original Vinyl, you could play Side 2 before Side 1, no?
It isn't a big issue but when people ask me questions about my opinions on things I tend to respond to them. I'm not on a holy crusade to change the tracklisting, I'm just offering my opinion.
Funny, this is exactly why I don't like the US LP on Janus, and why I prefer the later US pressing on Ovation. I have to have "Prelude" on there.
I'd still be curious to know: if Prelude is supposed to start the album, was it changed on purpose, because someone thought Victim of Changes was a better opener? Or was it accidental ...
I own that too! With the title translated: "Tristes alas del destino" What is your opinion about the sound?
I'm sorry to say that I should not comment on that since I stopped listening to vinyl many years ago (mainly for convenience). I keep them but nothing more. I only listen to CDs that have a good sound. Right now I need to have a good CD of "Tristes Alas del Destino". Effectively has that subtitle printed.
First, buy Castle "The Collection" CCSCD213. Start your playlist with Prelude-->Island Of Domination, end with Victim Of changes-->Deceiver. Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver sounds like a fatality gameplay. It's very easy.
Man, I read myself through the whole thread (okay, I "rushed" through it...), and I get it "The Collection" from 1989 is a big fave here. But somehow I lost when and where the Anesini remastered version from the 2012 collection wasn't favourable anymore, maybe the fans of "The Collection" even didn't feel the need to compare it against the Anesini version? I don't want to talk Teichuko here, or Repertoire/Snapper or even Koch - I believe you guys when you tell "The Collection" is the best out of all these. Still, I'm missing the comparison between "The Collection" and the Anesini remaster. Answers anyone?
