Judy Garland's microphone on JUDY AT CARNEGIE HALL

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lawrence Schulman, Dec 18, 2015.

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  1. Lawrence Schulman

    Lawrence Schulman Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Anyone know what microphone Garland was using at her legendary performance at Carnegie Hall in 1961? Thanks.

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    Lawrence Schulman, Dec 18, 2015
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    I just picked up a copy of the DCC/our host mastered version as a Christmas present to myself!
     
    jhw59, Dec 18, 2015
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  3. Steve Hoffman

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    Photos of her holding it, please.
     
    Steve Hoffman, Dec 18, 2015
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    Those look like two completely different microphones in posts #4 and #5. Are we certain the photos were taken at the Carnegie Hall gig?
     
    tortoised, Dec 18, 2015
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  8. Lawrence Schulman

    Lawrence Schulman Senior Member Thread Starter

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    No. These were taken in Amsterdam on December 10, 1960.
     
    Lawrence Schulman, Dec 19, 2015
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  9. Lawrence Schulman

    Lawrence Schulman Senior Member Thread Starter

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    This could be Carnegie Hall. I am not sure. It also looks like a photo-montage.
     
    Lawrence Schulman, Dec 19, 2015
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  11. Lawrence Schulman

    Lawrence Schulman Senior Member Thread Starter

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  12. MLutthans

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    391815997-Judy_Garland__252C_Carnegie_Hall_New_York_252C_april_23_1961.jpg 5d3591aec1e95151d24044b5e8e9da25.jpg Screen shot 2015-12-19 at 7.36.09 PM.png Screen shot 2015-12-19 at 7.36.48 PM.png

    Clearly a 666, which has a unique shape.
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  13. jwoverho

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    A question for the gearheads: have microphones improved much since the days of Neumman and EV? I've heard tales of some artists using the same actual microphone for years and years.
     
    jwoverho, Dec 19, 2015
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  14. MLutthans

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    The 666 basically morphed into the RE-15 and it's sister, the RE-16, which is still available new today.
    http://www.electrovoice.com/product.php?id=103
    Neumann is still making great mics today, and the older models such as (most famously) the U47 still sell for very large sums on the professional used market.
     
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  15. MLutthans

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    Reopened.
     
    MLutthans, Oct 24, 2021
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  16. Lawrence Schulman

    Lawrence Schulman Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks for reopening this discussion, MLutthans.

    I am currently interested in what kind of microphones might have been used to cover the orchestra for JUDY AT CARNEGIE HALL. I can find no surviving photos to help. Any clues? Thanks.
     
    Lawrence Schulman, Oct 25, 2021
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  17. Ryan Lux

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    Our favourite all-purpose mic in the studio is the Coles 4038 which (if I’m not mistaken), hasn’t changed in 60 plus years. It just flatters almost everything we use it on. I’m no techie but it seems to me that while the technology has no doubt improved, certain designs are indeed timeless sonically. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong….
     
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  18. MLutthans

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    A follow-up, based on a new photo brought to our attention by @Radio:
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    @lukpac and anybody else -- any idea what the mic is to the left? KM56?

    Also, I have Judy's album recorded at Manhattan Center, and it's no surprise to see the E-V 666 mic used there, as well:
    Garland at ManhattanCenter.jpeg
     
    MLutthans, Jul 21, 2022
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  19. lukpac

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    That seems most likely, although it's hard to say for certain. Hopefully they'll post a higher resolution version eventually.
     
    lukpac, Jul 21, 2022
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