Just want to rip a CD!

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Jeff Carney, Sep 5, 2005.

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  1. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Ripping music to the HD and then burning them to CD-R at 4x or 8x works for me and my purposes. I rarely ever use EAC for anything. If I can't hear the difference, there is no problem.

    On using 2x for burning a CD-R, we have gone over this time and time again. Modern blanks are optimized for very fast burning, and 2x will even result in higher amounts of C1 and C2 errors. Unless one has a massive stockpile of old blanks, there is no need to hang on to old Plextors that burn at 2x. At the very least, new ones will burn at 4x, which is very decent and adequate. Even 8x is fine for newer burners. Personally, I start to hear sound degredation after 8x on my Yamaha F1, but don't hear it until 16x on my LiteOn. I can hear degredation at 8x on my wife's Plextor, but it is also five years old.
     
  2. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    Perfect! Thanks, Dave!

    It appears even after I rip properly (and I think I was close on this but now will use this to check) I need to use something else besides EAC to burn. Seems strange, since EAC has a "write" function.

    So I guess I'll download Nero since nobody here seems to have much to say about Windows Media Player. I have 10.0 and could burn the CD with it, but maybe that isn't as good.
     
  3. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Huh??? :confused: You should be able to burn with EAC once you have your wav/cue files. Reminder: Always burn at the slowest speed possible for the best sound.
     
  4. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    Okay, great! Will try again when I get home later!

    Thanks again!
     
  5. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    Well, no luck so far. This link is very helpful but it does state that one needs to use their own software for burning. So I still don't see how to use EAC to burn.

    :sigh:
     
  6. Nobby

    Nobby Senior Member

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    Here you go Jeff.


    FOR RIPPING

    Open EAC.

    Action/Copy Image and Create Cue Sheet (uncompressed)


    this will create two files (wav and cue)

    FOR BURNING

    Open EAC

    Tools/CDR

    File/Load cue sheet


    then select the cue file you've made at the ripping stage - hey presto.


    If this doesn't work... download the free month's trial of nero.

    From Nero's top menu

    Recorder/Burn Image

    and point it at the same cue file.


    Good luck.
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    What happens when you open EAC and you go to TOOLS and then WRITE CD-R...? You should get a pop-up of the Layout Editor. Then go to FILE click and then LOAD CUE SHEET. Another pop-up window opens and you select where you've copied your CUE SHEET on your computer, I use My DOCUMENTS myself. Click it and then it loads and this window closes. Then you go click CD-R and then WRITE CD-R.
     
  8. Andreas

    Andreas Senior Member

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    I have never found a way to burn a CD with EAC. The computer will just freeze. The reason is, EAC is not compatible with all burners. However, it works great for ripping CDs. I simply use another program for burning CDs after I ripped them with EAC.
     
  9. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Thanks for confirming this for me. :thumbsup: I had heard this, but I've only ever owned 1 CD burner. I had not personally heard that someone couldn't use EAC to burn before.
     
  10. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

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    That's too bad, I don't know what would cause that. I have succesfully burned using EAC on a computer with 2 cd drives, and on a laptop with one internal CD and an external burner.

    Have you tried researching the EAC forum?
     
  11. Andreas

    Andreas Senior Member

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    thanks for the link, but I don't really need EAC for burning purposes.
     
  12. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    I'll try this again, Dave, but as I recall this is where my PC was freezing the other day. And my PC almost never freezes!

    I may just download Nero as I'm getting sick of EAC.

    And I'm still wondering if anyone can tell me what is wrong with Windows Media Lossless?
     
  13. Russ

    Russ Outlaw

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    There is nothing "wrong" with the lossless version of WMA. It contains the same data as the original .wav file...it is just a compression scheme. As far as "lossless" goes the only problems with any of them is compatability.
     
  14. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    So, "lossless" also compresses the signal? Because it sure uses a ton of megabytes! A typical CD on "lossless" is around 300mg!
     
  15. Russ

    Russ Outlaw

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    I'm not really familiar with WMA lossless compression ratio. I'm sure it's generally the same as .Flac and the others. Compared to MP3 and other "lossy" technology the files are much bigger.
     
  16. Russ

    Russ Outlaw

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    It doesn't compress the signal. Whatever program you are using to listening to the file on will process it in the same mannner as a .wav (generally speaking). Lossless compression is just a more efficient means of storing the data in a smaller place than a .wav is. A good analogy is archiving data in the .zip file format.
     
  17. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Jeff, do you have Windows Media Player as your default player? This might be what's causing your blue screen and incompatibility is my thought because it will attempt to fault everytime you stick a CD-R in to copy. Uninstall it, you can always re-install it without having it as your default player I believe.
     
  18. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    I do, Dave, but I don't think that's it. Windows Media Player pops up and closes out just fine. What happens is that when I go to write a CD with EAC is that if I try to run the .cue file I saved it just gives me an error reading and locks up my whole system.

    That site you referred me to is fantastic *until* it gets to how to burn. Because it seems to only deal in ripping. I suspect you might be one of a fairly small group who have have figured out how to rip with EAC. But even when I followed the steps on that site and ripped into a separate folder I got 11 tracks + 1 extra track (no idea what it was) and they were unnamed. It won't even let me name a file (IE: DCC Aqualung) which is weird. Then when I tried to burn those files using Windows Media (just to test) and dumped the file folder into WM to burn, it created all the tracks twice! Strange.

    Nero is nearing, I think. :confused:
     
  19. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Jeff, here's one last try to make certain you've done things correctly. Just scroll down a bit and it's all there. http://www.lobowalk.com/index.php/C7/

    After you've checked out that just make certain that your burner is being displayed in the tab window in EAC when you first open it.
     
  20. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Wouldn't it be much easier-and faster-to just use another program?
     
  21. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Of course, the best things in life never come easy otherwise everyone one would be using/doing them.
     
  22. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    This site deals in MP3s and the whole LAME encoder thing. I thought MP3 ripping was inferior to .wav?
     
  23. jrice

    jrice Senior Member

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    This may not be part of your problem but have you tried different brands of CDRs? My original drive used to burn any disc, anytime, anywhere (that's a Who song isn't it?). Then my drive died and I had a new one installed... fussy! In the owner's manual it specifies certain brands only and it means it! Using other (cheaper) brands causes no end of errors and bad burns. But using the right brand works every time.
     
  24. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    It is. I've been trying to find another site that discussed exactly what to do, but now that jrice mentions it. What kind of CD-R are you trying to burn?
     
  25. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid) Thread Starter

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    Philips. But that isn't the problem. They burn just fine. It's the various issues of EAC that I'm facing. I'm not even able to get to the point of burning. But I have copied from EAC and then burned to CDR with Windows Media Player.

    I also ran the tests from that one link and it turns out that by EAC standards I'm better off running out of my DVD drive. It tested best with the cache and what not. I'll figure this out. I haven't had time to mess with it today.

    Thanks for all the help! Everybody! Seriously, it is appreciated! Still can't burn with EAC, but hey... :laugh:
     
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