King Crimson - Next Box Set Speculation

Well, when they ship "Meltdown:Live In Mexico", I will have 18 discs of the recent 7- or 8-headed Crim (!). If they put out a nice brand new studio album plus a disc of demos or outtakes or chatter that would make 20 discs which would fit in a nice brand new empty-ish box...maybe a large booklet, too...hm!

 

Is it even worth pursing buying the current box given this? It's a little underwhelming content wise as it is, but if a new box/set is coming...........

 

A definite thumbs up for the `Drive To 1981'. I've collected quite a lot of the snippets published over the years...the jams with Phil Collins, John Wetton etc
I would hope that the League Of Gentlemen would be included, and that their album would be represented in original form too, I love the way it's put together.
God Save The Queen and Under Heavy Manners have never been properly reissued either. More Frippertronics would be nice, but not TOO much more ;-)

 

The current would cost an arm and a leg.

 

It's going to feature every ProjeKcts gig, apparently. So hold off!

 

Can I ask the source please? Was this discussed during the royal package talks? I wouldn’t mind if the projekcts were left out, but the more the better...

 

You didn't ask me, but yes it's from the royal package talk. I personally cannot imagine how they're gonna manage all the P2 shows.

 

It's odd, isn't it - there was "only" 5 discs in it, so it's not really compelling in relatrion to the others. But if they're going to put out another version of it, then it'd obviously be better to wait anyway.

 

It's only available on the 2ndary market. It's not about content that escalates the price, it's rare. Think the Larks' Tongues set is rather pricey now for this same reason, although this one does contain a Blu Ray audio disc unlike the previous In the Court.

 

I’ve been pondering what the aesthetics of the 1997-2003 box will be. I really love the artwork of PJ Crook that has graced releases such as The Night Watch and The Power To Believe. I hope they utilise a lot of her art and maybe some new pieces for this new box.

 

I was wondering this too. It seems for every successful PJ art piece used by the band (Epitaph box being my personal highlight), there is an accompanying questionable one (see: VROOOM VROOOM), at least for me. So use of her work for the H&E box raises an eyebrow.

However, most of the other box sets have used the cover art of the relevant KC album the box covers (Discipline for On&Off with 3OAPP symbol added, Islands for Sailors' Tales, etc.), and I must say that the ConstruKction cover art or its accompanying artwork (including ProjeKct X) is also a sore option in my view. Were The Power to Believe guaranteed for inclusion, I'd like its cover most out of these options... but alas, it seems the box will be dedicated to the ProjeKcts and TCOL, going by what's been stated so far about it.

In brief: not many winning options!

 

May I ask where the intel concerning the next box only covering TCoL and ProjeKcts comes from? Sid Smith’s request for fan material back in May featured an image of both TCoL and TPtB.

Agreed, TCoL May just be their worst sleeve art!

 

Granted the albums aren't the most 'popular' but all the albums on blu ray along with the bonus and live material made this set a great deal for me.

 

No, that prize goes to the water colors design on Islands.

 

that, more than any other, is what I'm waiting for.

 

I like Crook's art plenty, but TPTB cover art is nothing more than an illustration (albeit a good one) placed in a box with the most unimaginative typography beneath it. Unworthy of the material within, one of Crim's 2 or 3 best albums.

TCOL cover art is oblique, mysterious and stylish. Well-suited to the material. Apparently it was an unpleasant process for Gunn (who oversaw the art) to get RF approval, natch. One of their very best covers, along with LTIA and Discipline.

What's really creepy is the latest round of "schoolchildren" which adorn the current Uncertain Times tour.

[ shudder ]

 

If, as others have confirmed here (from the tongue of Singleton), this new mega-box features all of the ProjeKcts live shows, and all the Crimson material from 2000-03, it’s going to be a little unwieldy. I have the contents as this (excluding some of the live Crimson stuff):

ProjeKct One
London, Jazz Café, England – December 1, 1997
London, Jazz Café, England – December 2, 1997
London, Jazz Café, England – December 3, 1997
London, Jazz Café, England – December 4, 1997

ProjeKct Two
Space Groove (1998)
Live Groove (1999)
Live in Northampton, MA July 1, 1998
Live in Chicago, IL, June 4-5, 1998
Ventura Theatre – Ventura, CA, March 18, 1998
Palookaville – Santa Cruz, CA, March 20, 1998
Great American Music Hall – San Francisco, CA, March 21, 1998
Great American Music Hall – San Francisco, CA, March 22, 1998
House of Blues – Los Angeles, CA, March 24, 1998
Diamond Hall – Nagoya, Japan, April 07, 1998
Heart Beat – Osaka, April 08, 1998
Blitz – Tokyo, Japan, April 09, 1998
Blitz – Tokyo, Japan, April 10, 1998
Jazz Cafe – London, England, April 16, 1998
Ronnie Scotts – Birmingham, England, April 18, 1998
Ronnie Scotts – Birmingham, England, April 19, 1998
9.30 Club – Washington D.C., May 01, 1998
Bohager's – Baltimore, MD., May 02, 1998
Ballroom At The Bellvue – Philadelphia, PA., May 03, 1998
Toad's Place – New Haven, CT., May 04, 1998
Irving Plaza – New York, NY, May 06, 1998
Irving Plaza – New York, NY, May 07, 1998
Valentines – Albany, NY, USA., May 08, 1998
Inter-Media Arts Centre – Huntington, NY, May 09, 1998
I.C. Light Music Tent – Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Jun 1, 1998
Odeon – Cleveland, Ohio, June 02, 1998
Park West – Chicago, Illinois, June 05, 1998
Majestic Theatre – Detroit, MI, June 07, 1998
Somerville Theatre – Somerville, MA., USA, June 28, 1998
Old Lantern – Charlotte, Vermont, June 30, 1998
18 And 19 February Rehearsals 1998 – Nashville, Tennessee

ProjeKct Three
Masque (1999)
Live in Austin, TX, 1999
Electric Lounge – Austin, Texas, March 21, 1999
Cactus Cafe – Austin, Texas, March 22, 1999
Cactus Cafe – Ausin, Texas, March 23, 1999
Poor David's – Dallas, Texas, March 24, 1999
Antone's – Dallas, Texas, March 25, 1999
Live in Alexandria, Virginia, VA, March 3, 2003

ProjeKct Four
West Coast Live (1999)
Live in San Francisco/The Roar of P4 (1999)
Fox Theatre, Boulder, Colorado, October 23, 1998
Fox Theatre – Boulder, Colorado, Oct. 24, 1998
Richard's On Richards – Vancouver, British Columbia, October 27, 1998
The Fenix – Seattle, WA, Oct. 28, 1998
Crystal Ballroom – Portland, OR, October 30, 1998
7th Note – San Francisco, California, Nov 1, 1998
7th Note, San Francisco, California, November 02, 1998

ProjeKct X
Heaven & Earth

King Crimson
The ConstruKction of Light
Level 5 (EP)
Happy with What You Have to Be Happy With (EP)
The Power to Believe
Heavy ConstruKction (particularly the improv on disc 3)
EleKtrik: Live in Japan

Footage
Eyes Wide Shut DVD
Heavy ConstruKction (live video)

Seeing it all listed like this...woah!!

 

And to make matters even better ... I own next to none of it! Really looking forward to this set ... but I understand from comments in the other thread that we now have to wait until next year.

 

Me neither. Post Thrak is a real blind spot for me. Which is the ‘other thread’, please?

 

Don't drop it on your foot.

 

KING CRIMSON The ContruKction of Light DELUXE BOX - some details

 

In listening to just a bit of what's available from February-October 1973, this gap needs some serious fillin' but it's likely not to be.

 

If they keep releasing them individually and people like me keep buying them, they probably won't feel any need to box them. Those are excellent shows though, for sure.

 

Hmmmmm......

I've got a fair chunk of this already (25-30%?). I'd just as soon any ProjeKct shows I add were downloads.

What I really want is 5.1 and/or hi-res. Awaiting further word.

Wallet: "just count your lucky stars this ain't happening until 2019"

 

I decided to pick this up, what the hell. Got one secondhand for £60, which I guess for a five disc set is high, but since it'll only get more expensive..........