Led Zep - Heartbreaker - Bass

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by sleeptowin, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. sunking101

    sunking101 Forum Resident

    Yorkshire, England
    Same when the song finishes abruptly and Ramble On starts. All top notch stuff.:love:
  2. vamborules

    vamborules Forum Resident

    I love how he switches up the accents in the verse.

    It's subtle but there's this little thing he does...a thing that I can't find the words for...but he changes it in each verse. And it sounds wicked.
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  3. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Resident

    Ringwood, NJ
    Ah, the SH forum. Finding new ways to be dissatisfied. Every. Day. Lol.

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  4. buzzzx

    buzzzx Forum Resident

    Is that an alternate version? Different lead break than what I'm used to.
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  5. Wombat Reynolds

    Wombat Reynolds Jimmy Page stole all my best riffs.

    Atlanta, GA, USA
    this was recorded on the road, at a time when there was no auto-tune...

    This is like saying your friends 1942 Edsel isnt as fast as your 2018 Ford Mustang.

    they were recording on a shoestring budget, in a hurry, and he plunked it down in one take and they said "next".

    To me, its killer, its definitely got some kind of overdrive on it. A fuzz pedal thru an amp or perhaps straight into the board with a fuzz effect there, not sure.

    GLYNSTYLER Forum Resident

    Well, as much as I love the track, the OP is right. The bass really is out of tune. Did JPJ use a fretless bass on it? Whatever the case, it's an awesome track. I think the OP should steer clear of Bob Dylan records!
  7. Overthehillsandfaraway

    Overthehillsandfaraway Forum Resident

    I think what's on that isolated bass vid is the "full" solo if you like. Iirc Page said the solo was patched together in a different studio from the one it was recorded in, then slotted in to the final track. He recorded several different solos for Heartbreaker.
  8. Overthehillsandfaraway

    Overthehillsandfaraway Forum Resident

    Damn straight. Page really understood sequencing and that kind of thing. Similarly, whenever I hear Black Mountain Side, in my head it always goes straight into Communication Breakdown.
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  9. Overthehillsandfaraway

    Overthehillsandfaraway Forum Resident

    You should try Terry Keating or George Fludas. Search YT for "Bonzoleum", their takes on Bonzo's parts are spot on.
  10. zphage

    zphage inappropriately touching the out of touch

    A leslie with a tone bender

    or a rickenbacker transonic tr200 with built in tremolo and fuzz
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  11. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

    yeah it sucks, ok, throwing out my zeppelin albums now....whats next
  12. luckyno13

    luckyno13 Forum Resident

    London UK
    Reading this stuff, I'm going to have to listen to this album right now!
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  13. Tankbass73

    Tankbass73 Well-Known Member

    Austin, Tx.
    Low string sounds a little sharp! This adds a really cool tension against the guitar.
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  14. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

    If only loud rock music was perfectly in tune, discreetly recorded, free of distortion, with a sound as precious as a butterfly alighting on a rare flower amidst a gentle breeze!
  15. Martin K

    Martin K Active Member

    When the rhythm section cuts in during the guitar solo...it's the sound of continents colliding.
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  16. scoutbb

    scoutbb Forum Resident

    I always thought he played it straight on the hi hat with some ghost notes on the snare every now and then. Gonna have to re-listen.
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  17. Murph

    Murph Somewhere...under heaven

    Yup. And if you’re fortunate enough to have an RL LZ II , the bass will rattle your teeth!
  18. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Forum Resident

    Is it pitch perfect? No way but when you play bass that percussively it is almost impossible to be spot on pitch wise. His bass may not be out of tune. Smooth and precise was not what JPJ or JP wanted apparently. They are playing in unison most of the time and were going for an edgy make your skin crawl sound.
  19. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Forum Resident

    Cool clip. I was hoping there was a clip from the studio version. This is probably close enough.
  20. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Forum Resident

    If it sounds perfect all the time, it ain't rock n' roll
  21. luckyno13

    luckyno13 Forum Resident

    London UK
    That is from the studio version.
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  22. mdent

    mdent Forum Resident

    New England
    The book Led Zeppelin All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track notes it's not known for certain but those are the two prevalent claims. I lean toward the effect being an overdriven signal with a tremolo.

  23. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

    Levittown. NY
    ..hence the slightly vibrating effect...but not out of tune.
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  24. vamborules

    vamborules Forum Resident

    I still think it's an Acoustic 360 with the built-in fuzz on.
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  25. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Forum Resident

    Maybe the bass is but the guitar solo is not. It is from the rough mix version. I did not know the bass from the rough mix version is also the final studio version. So I stand corrected if it is. Doesn't sound like it though.

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