Lets talk about Talk Talk *

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Den., Dec 15, 2015.

  1. TheSeldomSeenKid

    TheSeldomSeenKid Forum Resident

    I wish that Laughing Stock would have also been released on Hybrid SACD, like was done for TCOS and SOE. Of course, it would have cost me another $110 approximately, since I was late on finding out about those 2 Albums being highly praised for the SQ of the SACD Layer, as only learned about those SACDs after joining this Forum. Also, add the Hollis Solo Album to my same wish for a release on the same Hybrid SACD.
     
  2. JulesRules

    JulesRules I heard it thru the grapefruit

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    I guess it didn't happen because of the label switch.
     
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  3. jamesc

    jamesc Senior Member

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    Something interesting popped up yesterday. I listened to the new Tears For Fears album on Tidal and when it finished, I noticed Talk Talk was one of the recommended artists and I hadn't explored their catalog on Tidal yet so I clicked it. I noticed the Mirror Man sleeve and figured it was another boring compilation reusing old artwork but it's apparently a 2022 remaster of the single that happened to be released yesterday. I checked the usual digital stores but didn't see it available for purchase yet.

    What's interesting is that this month happens to be the 40th anniversary of the release of their first single, Mirror Man b/w Strike Up The Band. Hopefully, they'll continue with the rest of the singles. We should know fairly quickly because the first release of the Talk Talk single was in March of 1982. Has anyone seen any announcements of a reissue program? Most of their catalog has been reissued digitally but there's a few alternate extended versions that would be nice to see properly transferred.

    A nice thing about Tidal is they often show extensive credits for releases and this one shows mastering done by John Webber. I didn't recognize the name but a quick look at Discogs shows he mastered some recent Bowie releases and the latest Duran album so I was a bit nervous. He also mastered the recent Bunnymen Peel Sessions release though and I thought that sounded great so fingers crossed.

    Mirror Man (2022 Digital Master) / Talk Talk – TIDAL
     
  4. tmtomh

    tmtomh Forum Resident

    Cool find! It seems like the fragmentation of albums and the overall musical scene by streaming services will likely (and sadly) extend to masterings too, although this is still quite interesting and possibly exciting.
    Thanks for the heads-up and the detective work!
     
  5. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    We need more Talk Talk in 2022!!
     
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  6. jamesc

    jamesc Senior Member

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    Hey, like any red blooded American, I was raised on Scooby Doo so I'm always up for a good mystery. :p
     
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  7. richard a

    richard a Forum Resident

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    Fascinating. I wonder if the whole catalogue has been remastered? And if so, will it get issued on cd/vinyl?
     
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  8. Beamish13

    Beamish13 Forum Resident

    Would love to have all the b-sides on vinyl
     
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  9. Freddy Steady

    Freddy Steady Forum Resident

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    I just want It’s my Mix on cd!
     
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  10. Eleventh Earl of Mar

    Eleventh Earl of Mar Somehow got them all this far.

    Location:
    New York
    open.spotify.com/album/0pgEbaT2FGTEOeOet4DST7

    sounds like these are actual remasters - it's much more bright than the 1998 release - ignore the bitrate for the 2022 releases, these were taken from Spotify at 128khz converted to get these values

    foobar2000 1.6.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2022-02-26 21:02:21

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    Analyzed: Talk Talk / Mirror Man
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR9 0.00 dB -10.89 dB 3:21 1-Mirror Man
    DR8 0.00 dB -9.35 dB 2:43 2-Strike
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of tracks: 2
    Official DR value: DR9

    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 16
    Bitrate: blank
    Codec: PCM

    1987 reissue, The Party's Over version

    foobar2000 1.6.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2022-02-26 21:03:43

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    Statistics for: 07-Mirror Man
    Number of samples: 8952300
    Duration: 3:23
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    Left Right

    Peak Value: -1.76 dB --- -1.08 dB
    Avg RMS: -15.23 dB --- -15.23 dB
    DR channel: 11.28 dB --- 11.51 dB
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Official DR Value: DR11

    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bitrate: 320 kbps
    Codec: MP3

    1998 remaster

    foobar2000 1.6.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2022-02-26 21:07:31

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    Statistics for: 04-Strike Up The Band
    Number of samples: 7244748
    Duration: 2:44
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    Left Right

    Peak Value: -0.70 dB --- -0.78 dB
    Avg RMS: -12.37 dB --- -12.54 dB
    DR channel: 10.06 dB --- 10.60 dB
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Official DR Value: DR10

    Samplerate: 44100 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bitrate: 320 kbps
    Codec: MP3
     
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  11. JulesRules

    JulesRules I heard it thru the grapefruit

    Location:
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    On the remastering, found this on their Facebook page:

    Today marks the 40th anniversary of Talk Talk's first single. To celebrate, 2022 digital versions of Mirror Man and Strike up the Band are now available to stream here: Talk Talk - Mirror Man .

    Please follow our official Instagram profile: Login • Instagram
     
  12. MikeManaic61

    MikeManaic61 Forum Resident

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    That's why your rule, Jules! Thanks.
     
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  13. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

    I wish they'd do a box set with rarities
     
  14. JulesRules

    JulesRules I heard it thru the grapefruit

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    D'aw. :oops: I wasn't even searching for this, I actually wanted to look for any more info on the elusive Chameleon Hour, and the facebook page popped up under results. :shh:
     
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  15. negative1

    negative1 80s retro fan

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    it will be interesting to see how many singles they put on the market.

    will they do the 12 inches too? there's quite a few us, uk and some promo mixes too.

    later
    -1
     
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  16. RTW

    RTW Forum Resident

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    Who is "they"? With Hollis gone.. and, ummm, EMI, who is overseeing the legacy of the band's work? Who operates the Facebook page? Etc.
     
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  17. Amnion

    Amnion Forum Occupant

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    As long as "they" have to pay royalties to Mark's family and the rest of the boys, let's keep TT alive.
     
  18. Summer of Malcontent

    Summer of Malcontent Forum Resident

    They're pretty much all here:
    [​IMG]
    You could probably cobble together another disc of additional remixes of the same handful of songs, but you'd be looking at severely diminishing returns.
     
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  19. Amnion

    Amnion Forum Occupant

    Location:
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    Yes, I think unless there's a secret vault out there, TT's output has been pretty thoroughly mined. After retirement IIRC, Mark still made music at home for himself, no idea if it was recorded though. If so it would be wonderful to hear, but maybe it was "private", intended for him and his family.
     
  20. JulesRules

    JulesRules I heard it thru the grapefruit

    Location:
    Germany
    Asides Besides does skip at least two remixes that are actually better than the ones included - the US versions of "Such a Shame" and "It's My Life". @Scott Davies has remastered those on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zurcekgyo5A

    There's also BBC sessions and of course live material...
     
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  21. JulesRules

    JulesRules I heard it thru the grapefruit

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    On Scott's channel I also found this interesting alternate mix of "Talk Talk"
     
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  22. MikeManaic61

    MikeManaic61 Forum Resident

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    I wish there was an audio release for the Live in Montreux, that would be nice.
     
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  23. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Why has OOP Live in London never been reissued?!?
     
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  24. Jagger69

    Jagger69 Forum Resident

    I think that there are several live concerts that they could use, like this one :

     
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  25. Aggie87

    Aggie87 Gig 'Em!

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    Medford, NJ
    One "secret" or at least lesser known Mark Hollis appearance is on this Anja Garbarek track, where he plays bass and melodica. Interestingly, Steven Wilson is also on this track, on guitar.

     
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