List of CD players that can decode pre-emphasis

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Starwanderer, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to add your own findings, please :)
     
  2. D Schnozzman

    D Schnozzman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    I should add my two dedicated CD players.

    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300
     
  3. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300


    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to add your own findings, please :)
     
  4. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

    Location:
    Northern Ontario
    I am so proud that I own the only one in red. :goodie:

    I have some players that work just fine, do we just want a list of the "bad guys"?
     
  5. Lord Hawthorne

    Lord Hawthorne Currently Untitled

    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    One of my old Denon players had it, I think it was the 695.
     
  6. Mayidunk

    Mayidunk Just passin' through...

    Location:
    New England
    Hello all, I'm new and this is my first post.

    Anyway, would de-emphasis be done by the DAC? If so, then the CD players using the Wolfson WM8741, and WM8742 DACs may provide de-emphasis if what they say corresponds to what you're discussing here.

    Here's what their blurb says: "The WM8742 includes fine resolution volume and soft mute control, digital de-emphasis and a range of advanced digital filter responses..."

    Other info can be found at www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/dacs.

    I have the Onkyo C-S5VL SACD/CD player, and it incorporates the WM8742 DAC. If this DAC does the kind of de-emphasizing you're discussing, then please add it to the list! :D
     
  7. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Welcome to the forums :wave:
    I hope you enjoy your stay ;)

    I'll add it. Thanks :cool:
     
  8. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300

    Onkyo C-S5VL (SACD/CD)

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to add your own findings, please :)
     
  9. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    Location:
    The ATX
    Agreed. I have little doubt that the vast majority of actual cd players handle pre-emphasis correctly.
    I'm pretty sure there are only two reasons to worry about this:

    1) whenever someone has the timerity to say they prefer a cd version other than the "forum approved" earliest possible pressing, the first thing that is suggested by incredulous true believers is invariably that maybe their player is not decoding pre-emphasis properly. What other explanation could there be? :winkgrin:

    2) I think this may be a real issue for people into computer-based audio where there is a lot of variety in the software used. For instance, IIRC there is a known with some versions of EAC not setting the pre-emphasis flag correctly.
     
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  10. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300

    Denon DCD-695
    Onkyo C-S5VL (SACD/CD)

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to bump the thread adding your own findings, please :)
     
  11. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Can any Primare, Meridian, Arcam, Naim... owners help me on this, please? ;)

    Thanks
     
  12. Larry I

    Larry I Senior Member

    Location:
    Washington, D.C.
    I believe Naim CDPs do have the de-emphasis capability as well as HDCD capability. Although I don't really pay attention to the "display" on my CD555 (it being so uninformative), once in a while I am surprised by a light indicating things like pre-emphasis or HDCD coding.
     
  13. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    Location:
    The ATX
    I've got the Naim CD-5i which does not decode HDCD, but I am fairly certain it decodes pre-emphasis correctly. Do we have a list of cds known to employ pre-emphasis? I'm sure I've got a few in the collection. . .
     
  14. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Pre-emphasis list ;)
     
  15. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300

    Denon DCD-695
    Onkyo C-S5VL (SACD/CD)
    Naim CD-5i
    Naim CD555

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to bump the thread adding your own findings, please :)
     
  16. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    Location:
    The ATX
    Thank you, good sir. And with that I am comfortable declaring as fact that the Naim CD-5i decodes pre-emphasis correctly :righton:
     
  17. shstrang

    shstrang Forum Resident

    I too thought that being able to decode those type of cds was part of the standard. I assumed they did decode but simply didn't show an indicator.
     
  18. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    You're welcome ;)

    :righton:
     
  19. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

    Location:
    ‎The Midwest
    Add Onkyo's C7030 to the list.

    I did a listening comparison between The Move's The Collection (Castle CD), and a CD clone I made with the PE flag removed. Huge difference.
     
  20. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300

    Denon DCD-695
    Onkyo C7030
    Naim CD-5i
    Naim CD555
    Onkyo C-S5VL (SACD/CD)

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to bump the thread adding your own findings, please :)
     
  21. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Valencia, Spain
    Thanks for your replies :)

    CD/Universal players

    Mitsubishi DP-101
    JVC XL-V550
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Harman Kardon HD7300

    Denon DCD-695
    Onkyo C7030
    Naim CD-5i
    Naim CD555
    Onkyo C-S5VL (SACD/CD)
    Sony SCD-X501 (SACD/CD)

    Cambridge DVD99 Universal Player
    Pioneer DV-656A Universal player

    Cambridge Azur 840C CD

    DACs

    Benchmark DAC 1 Pre
    Cambridge Dacmagic 2 Mk.II

    Feel free to bump the thread adding your own findings, please :)
     
  22. SOONERFAN

    SOONERFAN Forum Resident

    Location:
    Norman, Oklahoma
    Good question as this has been my understanding as well. Unless I missed it (probably did), this question has not been answered yet in the thread.
     
  23. appledan

    appledan Resident Rockist

    Location:
    Ohio
    I would think it's safe to assume that every Sony brand CD, SACD, DVD, BR player in existence would properly decode pre-emphasis.
     
  24. 926am

    926am Senior Member

    Location:
    rochester, ny
    I am still curious about Marantz as well, I assume it does decode pre-emp since my pre-emp cds sound fine.....

    Iam not able to burn cds with the PE flag removed. Maybe someone can post a snippet of what to hear??
     
  25. D Schnozzman

    D Schnozzman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    It might be worth the OP reporting his problem with the Cambridge 840C to Philips and/or Sony if this is the case. It has the Compact Disc logo right there on the disc tray, and it really shouldn't if it doesn't conform to the standard.
    [​IMG]

    Have you reported the problem to Cambridge? I have had dealings with their "support" in the past and was a long, long way from any sort of satisfaction.
     

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