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Listenin' to Jazz and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lonson, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Lansing, MI
    Haven't played it lately, but I've always liked his JCO set from the mid-70s too.
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  2. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

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    Jimmy Giuffre: The Capitol & Atlantic Recordings #5



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  3. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
    Here’s the track list for Bird in LA.


    LP 1
    Side A
    December 17, 1945
    1. Intro over I Waited for You into How High the Moon (incomplete)...................................... 4:11
    2. Intro dialogue with Gibson into Handsome Harry the Hipster (incomplete) (no Parker).... 4:15
    3. Cement Mixer (fragment) into Intro into Blues (fragment).................................................. 1:20
    4. Dizzy Atmosphere (fragment) (no Parker improvisation)..................................................... 1:04
    5. Fifty-Second Street Theme into closing announcement....................................................... 1:53
    Possibly December 10, 17, or 29, 1945
    AFRS “Jubilee,” NBC Studios, Hollywood, California
    Dizzy Gillespie and His Orchestra Featuring Charlie Parker
    6. Groovin’ High into announcement........................................................................................ 5:47
    Side B
    1. Intro dialogue with Gillespie into Shaw ‘Nuff into announcement...................................... 4:51
    2. Intro dialogue with Gillespie into Dizzy Atmosphere into announcement........................... 4:36
    3. Intro dialogue with Gillespie into A Night in Tunisia into announcement............................ 4:59
    4. Intro dialogue between Vallee and Gibson into Salt Peanuts............................................... 3:40

    LP 2
    Side A
    1. Billie’s Bounce........................................................................................................................ 3:45
    2. Ornithology ........................................................................................................................... 5:04
    3. All the Things You Are............................................................................................................ 5:13
    4. Blue ‘n’ Boogie....................................................................................................................... 5:15
    Side B
    1. Anthropology into announcement........................................................................................ 2:51
    Probably March or April 1946
    AFRS “Jubilee,” NBC Studios, Hollywood, California
    2. Intro discussion into Cherokee into announcement............................................................. 4:22
    November 22, 1948
    Jazz At the Philharmonic, Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, California
    3. Ornithology............................................................................................................................ 4:11
    4. Dizzy Atmosphere.................................................................................................................. 5:39
    5. Out of Nowhere..................................................................................................................... 3:35

    LP 3
    Side A
    July 14, 1952
    Party at Jirayr Zorthian’s Ranch, top of Fair Oaks Avenue, Altadena, California
    1. Scrapple from the Apple (incomplete)................................................................................. 5:44
    2. Au Privave/Dance of the Infidels......................................................................................... 13:11
    Side B
    1. Night in Tunisia...................................................................................................................... 7:33
    2. How High the Moon/Ornithology......................................................................................... 7:31
    3. Party Chatter into Embraceable You .................................................................................... 3:45

    LP 4
    Side A
    1. Hot House ............................................................................................................................. 7:07
    2. Cool Blues............................................................................................................................ 12:15
    Side B
    1. March Noodling/Dixie........................................................................................................... 4:12
    Probably July 28, 1952 at Zorthian’s Ranch
    2. Scrapple from the Apple...................................................................................................... 13:14
    Probably July 1952, Unknown Location, Los Angeles, California
    3. Au Privave (incomplete)........................................................................................................ 4:28

    Half of the release is the Zorthian Ranch material, which has been around, and is not the best sounding material but with Bird you take what you can get. It’s a sight better than the Benedetti material.

    Here’s the Zorthian material, Charlie Parker performing at Zorthian Ranch on July 14, 1952

    Here is an All About Jazz review of the previously issued Zorthian material and basically pans it.

    https://www.allaboutjazz.com/at-jir...onforme-review-by-david-rickert.php?width=414

    Lastly, here are the session details from Losin, Session details: Jirayr Zorthian's ranch (July 15, 1952)

    Perhaps Verve has found a way to clean it up. Most likely, I will opt for the cd version.
     
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  4. Sorcerer

    Sorcerer Forum Resident

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    Gill Scott-Heron Pieces of a Man (Flying Dutchman, CDSOL-45707)
     
  5. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    Cement Mixer, eh? Slim Gaillard?
    Slim Gaillard - Slim's Jam - Slim Gaillard 1945-6
     
  6. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    I think that the last time I saw that was c. 1973-74, when Pharoah and Rahsaan were here in town for a week each at a place called The Stables (about a 1/4 mile from where I'm sitting right now; they weren't there together, just in the same general time period); Marcus Belgrave was but one who came by to sit in with both.
     
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  7. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
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  8. Mike6565

    Mike6565 Hyperactive!

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    Long island, ny
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  9. dennis the menace

    dennis the menace Forum Veteran

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    Montréal
    Ornette Coleman - New York Is Now ! (Blue Note TYCJ-81060)

    Spring 1968 album with Elvin Jones, Jimmy Garrison and Dewey Redman.

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  10. Stu02

    Stu02 Forum Resident

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    Canada
  11. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmy Giuffre: Western Suite



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  12. Stu02

    Stu02 Forum Resident

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    I think you are not a huge fan of Blue Note and hard bop in general ( perhaps an over generalization, apologies if i am wrong here ) but Moncurs songwriting in particular on that label in the mid sixties for his own records and for others like McLean are real favourites of mine. While there is obviously other equally great stuff from BN at this time ( like Hills work ) nothing beats his work as a writer and player for me personally on the label... if you dont know it, well worth checking out.
     
  13. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
  14. ATR

    ATR Senior Member

    Location:
    Baystate
    My demonstration surround sound disc is Miles Davis – In A Silent Way (2002, SACD) . Multi channel mix was done in 2002 by Wilder and Philabaum. I've had the single layer disc for years, there's a hybrid also. Surround mix quality, like anything else, are a question of taste. Some people just don't like much action from other than the front. I don't care for a lot of moving around, but I do enjoy the additional space and separation that comes with a surround mix. The sensation is much like what happened the first couple of times I remember listening through headphones, but better. HRAudio.net - Stockhausen: Stimmung - Hillier . HRAudio.net - Tony Malaby: Apparitions Either one of the Tony Malaby recordings on Songlines are excellent.
     
  15. Yes, I was reflecting on the Charlie Parker RSD release and how best to hear it. I'm leaning towards streaming if that's an option.

    Apparently his Scottish dad was a jazz fan, and Thompson grew up listening to his dad's 78s of 'jazzers'. Though the folkies seemed to have something against 'jazzers' -- sounds like it was tribal, with a few exceptional cross-overs.
    There are still signed copies of his book online (see separate thread) if you're fond of physical books.

    Glad to see the Enja titles on CD Japan. How has the mastering been on prior versions (@Sorcerer mentioned the Archie Shepp title sounding good, and I'm curious if I can expect similar high quality to the excellent Impulse and Candid remasters). In many cases, the original German vinyl is available for about the same price as the budget CD, but I'm considering for the exceptions.

    Here's the Roland Kirk LP details on RSD website. It looks like material that may have had a 2006 CD release, though perhaps first analog release, and Gearbox are top notch for analog.
     
  16. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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  17. NP: Yusef Lateef - A Flat, G Flat and C (Impulse stereo original 1966)

    Starting the sunny morning with a gorgeous quartet session led by Lateef on mostly his own compositions.
    Less eastern-influenced, more blues-based.

    Can someone versed in musical theory explain the significance of the title?
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  18. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmy Giuffre & Jim Hall Trio: The Studio Recordings #1


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  19. Sorcerer

    Sorcerer Forum Resident

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    I used to have the 24bit domestic CD of Steam. Back then I was on different speakers and DAC. I was also forced to listen on headphones only for a number of years. The Steam CD used to bother me. It had too prominent bass drum I think. Too up front. Now it could well be these new Japanese discs have the same 24 bit Enja remasters as the domestic CDs from the early 2000s, because my sound system has improved quite a bit since. But I must say it puzzles me that the sound kept me from listening to this stellar live album back then. It's a not perfect recrording, but I have no complaints about the mastering (and mix) now. Top Archie Shepp.

    Edit: correction, I meant not a perfect recording.
     
  20. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so Thread Starter

    I have purchased quite a few of the recent Enja releases from Japan over the last four or five years from Galper, Shepp, Hawkins et al and the mastering is quite good. I expect these to be similarly very nicely done.
     
  21. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so Thread Starter

    Ben Thomas "The Mystagogue" cd

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    Ben Thomas - vibes
    Laura Caviani - piano
    Clipper Anderson - bass
    John Bishop - drums

    with on some tracks:
    Eric Likkel - clarinet
    Rick Mandyck - tenor sax
    Mark Piszczek - soprano sax
     
  22. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
    I may take a wait and see attitude about the Bird release.

    I have several of the Enja releases and I think the sound is very good. I’m pretty happy with them.
     
  23. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    East Lansing, MI
    Not a single name I recognize - GREAT!
     
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  24. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so Thread Starter

    Ben Thomas is quite a player and musical thinker, I've been enjoying exploring his work.
     
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  25. GnuHigh

    GnuHigh Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montreal, QC
    NP; Wynton Kelly - Kelly Blue

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