Listenin' to R&B and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by ando here, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. bvb1123

    bvb1123 Rock and Roll Martian

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    Seriously? Nothing to do with R&B? Nothing? Ok...
     
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  2. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

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  3. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Keeping the energy up with Earth Wind & Fire's sole major release live album:

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    Gratitude (1975)


    On the heels of That's The Way of the World success this follow-up album is witness to some of what it was like to see them live. Wish I had.
     
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  4. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Thanks!
     
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  5. bvb1123

    bvb1123 Rock and Roll Martian

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    Earth, Wind & Fire were great!
     
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  6. BWichmann74

    BWichmann74 Forum Resident

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    Today some might say it falls under the R&B umbrella but back in the late 20’s when Mississippi John was letting it rip R&B wasn’t a term..
     
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  7. bvb1123

    bvb1123 Rock and Roll Martian

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    So this, from 1949, would definitely be R&B, right? Despite, to me, it being early Rock N Roll.
    Fats Domino "The Fat Man" Killer song!

     
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  8. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I had no idea Songsters and Country Blues are now regarded as R&B... :eek: :)
     
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  9. BWichmann74

    BWichmann74 Forum Resident

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    As I mentioned, some would say so. Myself, not a chance!!!

    This guy is in his own category - honestly who else, in the history of Mississippi Delta Blues sounds like him???

    While you can hear several styles in his repitore, you always know when it’s him - that thumb is remarkable!!!
     
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  10. danasgoodstuff

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  11. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

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    I know......seems like a real spectacle ala funkadelic .....my favorite EW&F might be

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    but the two that preceded it are great too
     
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  12. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    He actually was more a songster than a bluesman, with his own unique style. The Yazoo CD with his 1928 recordings is a treasure and gives a good idea of his repertoire.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songster
     
  13. BWichmann74

    BWichmann74 Forum Resident

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    I kinda feel like we both said the same thing in our own way....

    Love those reissues of his early recordings - a treasure indeed!!
     
  14. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    PFunk - yes. Still haven't seen a decent video of them live. But it was an event to attend really. No video could capture that experience - I don't think. :)
     
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  15. bvb1123

    bvb1123 Rock and Roll Martian

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    Yeah, part of seeing PFunk was being overwhelmed by the entire show. You can't capture how that feels on video.
     
  16. Fender Relic

    Fender Relic Forum Resident

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    Love this,I have a promo.
     
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  17. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Now, is this jazz or soul or r&b? Swing?Hot as heck but you could put a drum track (boom-bap) over it at 4/4 and it would easily be r&b. Take out the bass player, put in say, a Roland Tr-9 laid track and it would still swing.

    Don't have any of my old equipment anymore to do a demo but engineers soup old jams like this all the time, making hits without most of public even knowing it.
     
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  18. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    R&B producer Jimmy Jam said he wanted to do a tribute of sorts to Joni Mitchell's Big Yellow Taxi, having grown up listening her music. So he did his studio tricks and made a r&b hit with Janet Jackson (& Q-Tip) out of a 20 year old song in a similar fashion like what I described above:



    Now, so called purists would likely respond that r&b is traditionally played by live musicians. I'll conceed that. But I think we can safely say that tradition ended with the 70s. Stevie Wonder's masterwork, Songs in the Key of Life (1976) featured synthisizers and his next album, The Secret Life of Plants, was primarily a machine produced work. So how far do you go back and where do you stop with regard to the r&b designation? Time, it seems, has little and everything to do with it! Beautiful thing about music.
     
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  19. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    A throwback by Any Winehouse is The Rehab Song. If it was released in 1955 there'd be little argument with the r&b label. In 2006 would purists balk at what producer Tom Elhirst tried to pass off as legit r&b?
     
  20. bluejimbop

    bluejimbop Thumb Toe Heel Toe

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    NP: Read About Love - Richard Thompson
     
  21. bluejimbop

    bluejimbop Thumb Toe Heel Toe

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    I bet more than a few of us have this MoFi 2x45 on backorder.
     
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  22. bluejimbop

    bluejimbop Thumb Toe Heel Toe

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    Same here.
     
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  23. drad dog

    drad dog A Listener

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    drad dog A Listener

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  25. Sneaky Pete

    Sneaky Pete Flat the 5 and That’s No Jive

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    Billy Stewart—Sitting In The Park
     
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