Madonna's out of tune performance at Eurovision 2019

The reaction is overblown and as someone pointed out earlier Madonna has become a punching bag of sorts lately for trying so hard.

What's really embarrassing is that Quavo when asked couldn't name a song by her earlier. My brother and his friends who are all juniors in HS currently, listen to Migos, Swae Lee, Post Malone, Drake and the like and when I asked if any could name a Madonna song, none could and 2/5 asked who she was...

Madonna is trying to appeal to a demographic who don't care to pay attention to her. It's sad.

 

She does needs a more flattering outfit and a good tune,video. As is ..mutton dressed as lamb.

 

I work with a 24 year old guy who, with $50 on the table, couldn't name any Beatles song.

 

Madonna has never been a singer, so this performance is no surprise. She’s certainly no Prince nor Whitney. Her talent is in the studio where she, or rather her producers, can smooth out the rough edges, and produce records which have, or had, mass appeal, but she has never been able to cut it as a singer, and to be fair, she has admitted this.

 

When you're 20, 35 is old, and 45 is really getting up there. 60 is grandma & grandpa old. Nobody young is interested in a 60-year old grandma thinking she is hot stuff. It just gets pathetic despite her looking and sounding pretty good "for her age".

 

Young people want their own idols. It doesn’t matter that Madonna has had a career that none of today’s acts will ever come close too, they just don’t ‘see’ her. To a 15 year old, Madonna will have done nothing noteworthy in their lives. No real hits in that time.

I think Madonna is under the impression that if she makes records ‘current’ enough radio will have to take note and play them. They won’t! I don’t think they’re necessarily being cruel, there’s just lots of other stuff they’d rather play. Madonna had a fantastic run, but the fact is she’s an old woman to kids and teenagers now.

Quavo’s brush off wasn’t mean spirited, he was just telling it like it is.

 

It's the People's Republic of China logic: If you're going to cheat, everyone has to be able to cheat or it's not fair!

 

Yeah, I don't get this thing of old-sters trying to appeal to a teen audience.

Let's be honest: "Pop" music (in the modern sense) is a youth-driven genre. There's nothing wrong with Madonna (or anyone) having random hits on the pop chart, by chance as it were (like Louis Armstrong suddenly had a #1 pop hit in 1964, aged 63, out of the blue), but it's the endlessly trying to appeal to a younger audience that I don't understand.

U2 are guilty of the same thing, in more of a 'rock' context. Since the late-90s, they're never content to just make music that follows their own artistic instincts. Instead, they try with every last dollar they have to calculate their records/tours for mass appeal and are always attempting to connect with a youthful audience that couldn't care less about some old, fat Irish guys.

I just find it unbecoming.

 

In what way is Israel controversial? Like every other nation in Eurovision they participate in the competition. They won the competition four times and They artists that represent them are usually fun and contribute to the spirit of the song contest.
Very interesting that people mention Israel but not Armenia and Azerbaijan who are not in Europe either.
I suspect that you refer to the fact that Israel is always in the news because of political conflicts. This is not a discussion for this forum but if you look at the human right record of some other countries in the competition you may be surprised. Not to mention the less than stellar human rights history of Australia.

 

I try not to knock artists that I'm not a fan of (and, in Madonna's case, I actually do have a few albums!), mainly because I know they really "speak" to a ton of fans, and that's cool....that's what music is all about ~ how it reaches and speaks to YOU!
That said......I gotta say.....I would be hard pressed to think of another artist who is just a glimmer of her former self. Back in the day, Madonna was a trend setter who led the pack....now, she just seems desperate to follow the latest trend, no originality whatsoever.
That's always sad to see, but once an artist hits 60, well, it's EXTRA sad.

 

I thought that. It's not a patch on the other one.

 

Yay that, and won the 'Creativity 'award on the night.

EDIT : That video is the pre Eurovision Australian version without her swaying about on a pole.

 

This 100%

Madonna still is and will forever be iconic and most people regardless of age would have sometime heard her name. It's just that time passes and what's new and exciting becomes old and repetitive.

Everything works in cycles.

 

Even someone like Taylor Swift met with radio resistance to the singles on her last album. Ms Swift isn’t 30 for a few months, but has been having hits since she was a teen. It’s hard for her to sound fresh or offer anything new anymore.

You only get so long.

 

I was following a conversation thread about Israeli inclusion in Europe which referenced UEFA and relations with nearby countries.

You can get political and get the thread locked by discursion into Azerbaijan, Armenian or Australian politics if you want.

 

Yes. I’ve never read a review of a Madonna concert that has singled out her exceptional vocals. The performance on Saturday was no worse than ones she’d give in the 80s.

 

she did pretty good at Live Aid.

 

Well, not really. She was all over the place even then. Love Makes The World Go Round was especially rough.

 

she was great considering the production of the time, no sound check, no in ears... and danced.

 

Love Makes The World Go Round does make my Madge Top 40. So to "celebrate" my 3-year SHF anniversary let's bore others with the contents of my Madonna folder (includes neat chronological timeline)...

01 - Holiday (12" Remix)
02 - Lucky Star
03 - Borderline (Extended)
04 - Like A Virgin [Extended Dance Remix]
05 - Material Girl
06 - Crazy For You
07 - Angel
08 - Into The Groove (Shep Pettibone Remix)
09 - Dress You Up
10 - Gambler
11 - Papa Dont Preach
12 - La Isla Bonita
13 - True Blue
14 - Where's The Party
15 - Open Your Heart
16 - Live To Tell
17 - Love Makes the World Go Round
18 - Who's That Girl (Extended Version)
19 - Causing A Commotion
20 - The Look Of Love
21 - Express Yourself
22 - Like A Prayer (Extended)
23 - Cherish (Extended Version)
24 - Vogue (Celebration Album Version)
25 - Hanky Panky
26 - Justify My Love
27 - Rescue Me (Titanic Mix)
28 - Erotica
29 - Deeper And Deeper
30 - Bad Girl
31 - I'll Remember
32 - Human Nature
33 - Take A Bow
34 - Frozen
35 - You'll See
36 - Drowned World / Substitute For Love
37 - Ray Of Light (Calderone Club Mix)
38 - The Power Of Goodbye
39 - Beautiful Stranger
40 - What It Feels Like For A Girl (Above & Beyond Club Mix)
41 - Hung Up
42 - Get Together

 

The beauty of lowered expectations. Madonna is a professional. It is not okay for a professional to be flat. Someone paid her. If you're going to sing live, do it right. If you can't, lower the key until you can. It's that simple, really.

Ed

 

She may have admitted to it...but it isn't true. Madonna could sing. Listen to the vocal on "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell" or, later, "I'll Remember" and "This Used to Be My Playground" and tell me she couldn't sing. She probably still can. She's 60 now. She did "Like a Prayer" when she was 30/31. She just needs to put the song in a key she can handle now. No shame in it.

Ed

 

Since when? Russia is both in Europe and Asia.

 

That doesn't surprise me at all, outside of these forums I bet that most 24 year olds couldn't name a Beatles song. The Beatles broke up a quarter of a century before they were even born.