Mark Linett on Beach Boys' remixes

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Vidiot, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR! Thread Starter

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    I haven't seen this posted yet, but this video popped up today from the UK Sound on Sound magazine...



    Whatever you think of Linett's remixes (I'm generally a fan), I think his thought process is interesting and he goes into a lot of detail as to what tapes are lost, what tapes still exist, what was digitally extracted, and his process in terms of remixing and mastering.
     
  2. aphexj

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    Thanks for posting. Lots of good info
     
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  3. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    iloud Micro Monitors $300 “ how scarily accurate they are”

    Look cheap plasticy things. Guess part of the modern house studio set-up.
     
  4. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Fascinating stuff. European 50 years copyright rule suggests more BB box sets ( physical media) in the future.
     
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  5. Harry Hotspur

    Harry Hotspur Forum Resident

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    Thanks so much.
     
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  6. Vidiot

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    Mark had full-range Tannoys the last time I visited him in the 1990s, so my guess is that the small monitors are just the "real world" speakers (kind of like the Auratones or Yamaha NS-10M's from the 1980s).
     
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  7. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Iloud..
    Cheap as chips looking. Apparently they do the job. Get that AM radio mix. :)
     
  8. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Mark ?
    Incredible knowledgeable. Spoke for a full 30 minutes with no sip of water( cool cool water). Clip ? Great source of information for BB fans.
     
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  9. JP Christian

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    I just wish he would sort out the appalling stereo remix of California Girls - vocals are out of sync with the backing (too early by a shade enough that it's noticeable) and too much reverb to hide the fact - I did a better job myself using the acapella track and the instrumental, and I'm an amateur.

    Dropbox - 15 California Girls stereo mix 2017.wav - Simplify your life
     
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  10. Vidiot

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    Eh, every good interviewer shoots a couple of hours of material, gives the subject a chance to take a break, and provides them with a water bottle just off camera in case they get thirsty sitting under the hot lights.... and then they chop the boring parts out to get 20-30 minutes of good material. But Linett is sharp and articulate and knows what he's talking about. I dunno if he could tell them publicly, but he has several hundred stories and could easily write a book on his experiences.
     
  11. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Like the bit where he mentions he has a museum room with vintage gear, preferably working.
     
  12. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Music Appreciator

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    Thank you, for sharing that.
     
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  13. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    1979 CBS fire a lot of master tapes were lost.
     
  14. JP Christian

    JP Christian Forum Resident

    But the stereo remix was originally done in something like 2002 and I listened to the 2015 stereo version and it sounds the same drenched in reverb, vocals slightly out of sync mix...
     
  15. lou

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    The first mix on the original Endless Harmony Cd is the best. The remix missed the mark.
     
  16. Vidiot

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    Yeah, Mark was not kidding when he talked about buying dozens of Pultecs and all kinds of amazing analog compressors and limiters... and has an amazing mic collection as well.
     
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  17. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    thanks for the link...I enjoyed it even though I am not a fan of remixes...
     
  18. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    I can appreciate a remix of an album that was NEVER released in stereo as it's changing nothing that wasn't already instilled into the memory. : )
     
  19. Vidiot

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    Mark has said before, "hey, if you don't want the stereo, just listen to the original mono mixes." Consider the stereo just an alternative, just like the outtakes and unreleased stuff.
     
  20. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    I thought they’d be more reply’s /posts in this thread. Where’s the Beach Boys fans here ?
     
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  21. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    What does that have to do with my post? I'm missing something here? : )

    I always wanted true Stereo everything ...mono for me is an afterthought and unfortunate...
     
  22. Gila

    Gila Forum Resident

    Thanks for the video link, was very interesting and enjoyable.

    What is true stereo?
     
  23. Tommyboy

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    Please let’s move on, whether you dislike remixes or mono, etc. This has the potential to be an interesting thread. I’d hate to see it blowup. Enough already.
     
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  24. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    self explanatory...
     
  25. Vidiot

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    You said "as it's changing nothing that wasn't already instilled into the memory." Some of Mark Linett's stereo mixes are new stereo mixes of songs that did exist in 2-track stereo (vocals on one channel, instruments in the other, or some other unbalanced version), and he made an attempt to make a more "modern" balanced stereo mix. I think there were a lot of bad stereo mixes done in the 1960s, and sometimes it's possible to find the multitracks and attempt a new version. Is it better or worse? It's a subjective call. But there is such a thing as bad stereo, including the original 1960s stereo mixes. In those cases, I think sometimes the mono is better.
     
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