Marquee Moon is truly timeless

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Halfwit, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

    Revisiting this thread as I just picked up a copy of Marquee Moon on vinyl, the Rhino reissue. I did not know before purchasing it that it has the full version without the fade on "Marquee Moon." A pleasant surprise, although I also like the fade. Sounds terrific!

    I've also found my way into the second side of the album, which eluded me before. "Elevation" and "Torn Curtain" are stuck in my head on frequent rotation.
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  2. Kristeva

    Kristeva Forum Resident

    I wonder how that Rhino reissue sounds compared to the original. Does anyone know?
  3. webmatador

    webmatador Man Of The People

    Austin, TX, USA
    I have both the Rhino and a minty original (PRC pressing). I think the Chris Bellman remaster is a little heavy-handed on the high-end, especially the hi-hat and cymbals that sound extra bright and out of place compared to the original. The Rhino is not terrible by any means, and the original isn't all that great to begin with. The best thing about the butterfly Elektra is the room tone and the cohesiveness of the mix.

    Both masterings are bass-shy and clearly the 2-track master was EQ'd at a setting where the guitars and Verlaine's voice can grate on your ears -- you really can't listen to this album loud no matter what copy you have. This is disappointing when you consider that Andy Johns was the producer and engineer.
  4. Chris DeVoe

    Chris DeVoe Forum Resident

    I know this is heresy, but have you considered adjusting your own EQ?
  5. webmatador

    webmatador Man Of The People

    Austin, TX, USA
    Not heresy to suggest that at all, but I don't have an Equalizer connected to my setup. Almost everything else I've ever played on it sounds outstanding. In any case, the mid-range on this record has always been pretty harsh to my ears. To me, Marquee Moon is just one of those recordings that will never sound warm without a huge amount of effort -- and if I liked side 2 half as much as I love side 1, I'd make more of an effort.

    FWIW, I felt the same way about the Stones' Goats Head Soup being an album that "got away" until I heard the CBS vinyl copy from 1986. Maybe there's another version (German?) out there that will save my delicate sensibilities.
  6. vonwegen

    vonwegen Forum Resident

    Fabulous album, not a weak cut on it.

    Love Richard Lloyd's tales about Andy Johns--utterly hilarious.
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    vonwegen Forum Resident

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  8. sberger

    sberger Grumpy geezer who likes dirty records

    Haven't heard the Rhino, but Fred Smih's bass is not shy at all on my WLP.
  9. Brian Lux

    Brian Lux One in the Crowd

    Placerville, CA
    This is one of those records that is so fantastic that if the only recording available to me was a scuffed up LP played on a Caliphone all-in-one I'd be grateful for the opportunity to hear it! But thankfully my Elektra vinyl copy from '77 sounds just great!
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  10. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    Richard Lloyd's tales about just about anybody are hilarious.
  11. Tanx

    Tanx Forum Resident

    Washington, DC
    I've had...."interesting" conversations with Lloyd. He's lived through so many fascinating eras, and he's not shy about telling all. It would be great if someone could sit down with him and put together a coherent memoir. They'd have to double-check every anecdote, but that in itself might be a fun job.
  12. Chris DeVoe

    Chris DeVoe Forum Resident

    As they say "Truth is stranger than fiction."
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  13. dead of night

    dead of night Forum Resident

    Northern Va, usa
    Lloyd claimed that Jimi Hendrix punched him. Do you think that's true? I've never heard of Hendrix punching or fighting anybody.
  14. Chris DeVoe

    Chris DeVoe Forum Resident

    I could believe it. Remember, Jimi served in the Army. OK, it wasn't a distinguished career, but being a Black guy in the 101st Airborne in 1961 had to toughen you up some.

    Also, sometimes strange things can happen in one's life. I could give you a dozen anecdotes from my life that would seem very unlikely, yet they'd be true. Life can be very weird.
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  15. Tanx

    Tanx Forum Resident

    Washington, DC
    I read that, too. And then Hendrix apologized in the parking lot and started crying and wiped his tears on Lloyd's face or something.

    I think it's plausible. Lloyd says his best friend took lessons from Hendrix, and that's his Hendrix connection. I guess if he wanted to flat-out lie, he'd say he got lessons from Jimi, too, but he's never made that claim.
  16. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    Hendrix taught Velvert Turner, and Velvert would share what he learned with Lloyd.
  17. parkgrover

    parkgrover Forum Resident

    Just picked up Live at the old Waldorf on vinyl tonight…..great stuff!!
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  18. riverrat

    riverrat Forum Resident

    I dismissed this album as punk/new wave when it came out. Since I didn't really like or appreciate such music at that point in my life, I never heard MM until recently.

    I actually picked up their 1999 self-titled lp 1st (cheap) and liked that a lot. Then started keeping my eyes out for Marquee Moon. Recently picked up the Newbury Comics maroon vinyl edition during their 30% off sale. Pretty sure that is the Rhino remaster. I think it sounds quite good, personally but I've never heard an original pressing.

    The good news is that I get to discover this great music for the first time!
  19. Fullbug

    Fullbug Forum Resident

    Great CD. I played it last night for the first time in a couple years, and I LOVED it. It's even better than I remember especially Venus and the title track.
  20. sonofjim

    sonofjim Forum Resident

    I'm new to the album. I don't know how or why I missed it. (Well, I WAS in 5th grade and disco seemed to be where it was at for most and the Skynyrd crash and I had a crush on Paula Young). For a multitude of reasons I never knew this album existed until someone here mentioned the Rhino reissue. What a great album. What a great reissue. Really glad to come across this.
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  21. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    Quick, grab Adventure, which was reissued at the same time. Then - against all odds - buy their self-titled album that came much later (Television). Then buy all all the Tom Verlaine CD's.

    Oh, and spend the money on the Television live CD.

    Then rest.
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  22. Leschiens

    Leschiens New Member

    Red city
    I like the title track
  23. bherbert

    bherbert Forum Resident

    South Africa
    I need to give it a listen again. The first time I heard it I didnt think much of it. But it was an MP3 version.
  24. douglas mcclenaghan

    douglas mcclenaghan Forum Resident

    I want to see Adventure given the deluxe treatment too; maybe as a double with Waldorf as the second disc.
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  25. sonofjim

    sonofjim Forum Resident

    Thanks for the heads up on Adverure. I wasn't aware of it. The Four Men With Beards reissue is everywhere. Luckily, I found an eBay seller who still had the 2014 Rhino LP.

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