Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab has been cutting vinyl from digital since a long, long time ago...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Ben Adams, Jul 14, 2022.

  1. Sam

    Sam Senior Member

    Rochester, NY
    I may have to hold off on my pre-order of Elvis, since the Speaker Corners is so well reviewed. I'll have to wait and see I guess.
  2. wolfmac

    wolfmac Forum Resident

    Here's what Steve himself said on this very forum ten years ago:

    Digital delays were (are) used by studios that foolishly dismantled their disk cutting rooms in the late 1980s after CD's came in. When they had to build them back up again some studios did a cheap and easy alternative to using a real analog cutting system by cheating and using a digital delay instead of a real mastering tape deck. In essence, when you cut a record on one of these setups you are converting analog to digital and then cutting a digital signal on your lacquer as the cutting head converts it back to analog. Pointless. However if your source is digital already it could work OK I guess.
    Such is life.
  3. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

    New Jersey
    No worries, and agree. No doubt there are unfortunately trolls everywhere.

    Regardless of how we feel or have reacted to the behavior, there is no question it is at best extremely misleading and at worst flat out lying. Regardless of where it falls on that spectrum there is no question it’s unethical and hopefully they continue to change their approach and improve.
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  4. highfell

    highfell Forum Resident

    Because of this thread, I picked up a NM copy of Fragile by YES, but the Analogue Productions version, not the MOFI versions, because AP is AAA.

    Compared to my first press plum Fragile, the AP version is tighter, better clarity on the high hats and bass, and also lacking in some small amounts of distortion that the original has. Not much in it, but it is better.

    In general though I am happy picking up NM originals versus expensive boutique versions costing multiple times more, unless it relates to a very important record to me , as it means I can expand my collection quicker.

    As regards digital vs analogue sourcing, for my LPs I want to be the arbiter on this and not deceived by the label. So understanding that is important.

    Having said that, I recently, got Friday Music’s The Yes Album 45, which I assume to be digital - not sure , based on the good reviews here and it does indeed sound sublime.
  5. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

    DC area
    At a price that better represents the costs and risks associated with the release?
  6. Dougthesnail

    Dougthesnail The Big Gabagool

    Out of 60+ AP records in my collection not a single one can be described that way.
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  7. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    Or MoFi may possibly be selling more SACDs after this.
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2022
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  8. Merrick

    Merrick The return of the Thin White Duke

    I just ordered a Speakers Corner pressing of From Elvis in Memphis. Cost a bit more than I normally spend but waaaay less than the one step would have.
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  9. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    Any estimates on the date of the cutoff / crossover from analog mastering to digital yet?
    Ie., when did they start off doing DSD64 (2.8 Mhz) digital vinyl cuts?
    2012? 2013? 2014?? Or was it earlier?
  10. thirtycenturyman

    thirtycenturyman Forum Resident

    Both of the UHQR's I purchased had a lot of surface noise. For the most part, I've been happy with the dozen or so other AP's I've purchased, but have got a few replacements. Most recently, I got a copy of the 45rpm Time Out that had some distortion on Side 1. They sent a replacement disc to me very quickly. Should have done that with the UHQR's, but waited too long.
  11. playsFastForward

    playsFastForward just as long as he can

    No definitely not equivalent, that is a gazillion times worse than what MoFi did!
    MoFi determined that using DSD256 (or even DSD64) could be leveraged to virtually eliminate generational loss, retaining closest possible approximation of the original masters.
    Anyone making SACD's from up-sampled Redbook-CD's is almost techincally doing the opposite of what MoFi brouhaha did. SACD's from upsampled Redbook, that's just pure scam, highway robbery.
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  12. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

    Boston MA
    You are one lucky man.
  13. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

    I needed 3 copies of the UHQR of Kind Of Blue. Aside from that, no issues whatsoever.
  14. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    Huh? Link to that?

    That's far more egregious.
  15. Piero

    Piero Forum Resident

    someone can tell me where MFSL write that a his record is AAA?
  16. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    If true, it seems odd that nobody seems to care about that
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  17. xfilian

    xfilian Forum Resident

    Essex, UK
    I have one AP record in my collection (Roger Waters - Amused to Death). It can be described that way.
  18. Joe Stark

    Joe Stark "Sad wanker" - Michael Fremer

    Salt Lake City
    All my AP records sound great, but if they were noisy I would not hesitate to e-mail Chaddy Cakes about it.
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  19. Sex Lies And Master Tapes

    Sex Lies And Master Tapes Gaulois réfractaire

    Nantes, France
    Likely 2003.
  20. ZippyPippy

    ZippyPippy Forum Resident

    Also, how many people are refraining from voting because they wouldn’t buy them retail from the establishment but would under secondhand circumstances?
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  21. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    I’m honestly surprised how many say they will continue buying after being lied to. Vinyl Stockholm syndrome. :laugh:
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  22. Sci-Fi Kid

    Sci-Fi Kid Forum Resident

    Lindenhurst, IL
    At about the 42 minute mark of the Mike Esposito video Shawn R Britton mentions he believes the 2008 33rpm Abraxas he did was from DSD.
  23. Dougthesnail

    Dougthesnail The Big Gabagool

    Apparently I am. The only issues I had were on the 33 of Skynyrd's Second Helping and Counting Crows, both needed to be replaced due to scratches.
  24. Dougthesnail

    Dougthesnail The Big Gabagool

    I might be in for the CSN just because I love the record and only have an original press.

    The curiosity of a 2x45 on SuperVinyl sounds like is very alluring.

    However, I did cancel $1500 worth of MoFi backorders.
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  25. keylime_5

    keylime_5 Forum Resident

    Columbia, SC
    It really doesn't effect me in anyway since the product quality is not really any worse that I was led to believe. Analog, sounds good and that is what I'm paying for.

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