Moby Grape, the legendary first album

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by classicrockguy, Sep 23, 2022.

  1. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Livingston NJ
    The flag is airbrushed on that one though. Never understood why they did that :confused:
     
  2. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Here are a couple of pictures (taken by Jim Marshall) from the album cover photo shoot. The first one was the image that was used for the front jacket art but notice that the American flag was colorized.
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    And here’s an outtake…
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  3. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Misplaced sense of patriotism on the part of the Columbia Records art department, I guess. Hippies and the America flag don’t mix.
     
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  4. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    They blacked out the flag completely for the 70s repressing….

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  5. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Livingston NJ
    Never seen it like that before, looks like there is a witch hiding behind Spence in that pic
     
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  6. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    The photo shoot was staged in front of “Junktiques”, an appropriately named antiques shop located at 341 Bolinas Road in Fairfax, CA (Marin County). The block was redeveloped for residential in 1973 and this is what it basically looks like today…

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  7. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Livingston NJ
    Thanks, too bad it doesn't exist anymore. :(

    kind of eerie how those trees kind of resemble the blacked out flag on the cover (especially the one on the left)
     
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  8. Cool Chemist

    Cool Chemist Forum Resident

    Location:
    Bath, England
    Great album with some lovely guitar, melodies and harmony signing.
    I have managed to pick up some gorgeous copies of this record at record fairs over the years.
    It transports me to West Coast USA when I play this. Very evocative music.
     
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  9. Ray Hicks

    Ray Hicks Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Zealand
    A great album that's got everything you want: Tight, cohesive playing & singing with every band member contributing to the overall sound.
    Despite coming out of the San Francisco scene, Moby Grape were quite different from the other leading lights (Dead, QMS, Big Brother etc). Whereas the others could be loose and a bit sloppy (especially Big Brother), The Grape created tight 3-4 minute tunes that rocked hard and displayed their musical capabilities.
    Ability-wise there wasn't a weak link: However, management-wise that's another story...
     
  10. Kieran White

    Kieran White Forum Resident

    I have the album. Yes it's so great to listen to from time to time.

    Music of the 60s and the 70s is the best.
     
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  11. Kieran White

    Kieran White Forum Resident



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  12. doubleaapn

    doubleaapn Forum Resident

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    Trophy Club, TX
    A top 5 album for me. It rocks as hard as nearly any album of the era yet has gorgeous gentle moments as well. I'm not sure if Jerry Miller's stinging leads or the glorious harmonies all over the place are what makes this such a cornerstone slab for me, but I don't really care. These guys were firing on all cylinders here and it should be more well-known (not to mention more readily available).
    "Moby Grape '69" is nearly as good, and even more obscure than the debut. Ain't that a shame.

    Aaron
     
  13. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Livingston NJ
    Thx, I saw this in the album cover location thread as well. Too bad it doesn't exist anymore
     
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  14. EndOfTheRainbow

    EndOfTheRainbow I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight

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    ???
     
  15. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Livingston NJ
    That would be the Wow track that you had to change your turntable speed to 78 rpm
    It is one of those "Winchester Cathedral" types of song in a 20s-30s style
     
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  16. Radley

    Radley Forum Resident

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    San Francisco
    Moby Grape and the Sons of Champlin were a cut above everyone else out here. Terrific first album, sometimes fate deals you that hand. Skip Spense was dynamite on stage.

    By the way that store is still there, that guy James got it wrong, and yes they have a photo of the album in the window.
     
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  17. Glenn coates

    Glenn coates Forum Resident

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    Usa
    I have all their albums and I always found that this was a really good 2cd collection ....
     
  18. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    Scranton, PA
    Great album swallowed up by record company hype and politics.
     
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  19. Vangro

    Vangro Forum Resident

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    London
    An almost perfect album.
     
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  20. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

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    clifton park,ny
    Great stuff. Enjoyed it from the first listen.

    Here's one of their earliest shows.

     
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  21. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Oh man, I’m so happy to be corrected about the store! Will have to check it out. Thanks! :righton:
     
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  22. let him run...

    let him run... Senior Member

    Location:
    Colchester, VT USA
    I think it matters a lot. Context is everything.
     
  23. I've heard it but don't have a copy.
    I bought Great Grape years ago which I still play often which is excellent. A 1974 UK re-issue. Great stuff.
    Strange cover, a whale on land with a bunch of purple berries above it. Not sure what that's about.
     
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  24. SPF2001

    SPF2001 a must to avoid

    Location:
    St. Petersburg,Fl.
    FYI
    Arwen Lewis,who is the daughter of Moby Grape original member Peter Lewis,released an album in 2015 simply
    titled "Arwen" which was all MG songs
    done pretty close to the original style
    but with female vocals,obviously.
    Most of the songs are from the debut MG album and her father plays on a lot of it.
    I only became aware of it a couple of years ago but I really like it,and as far as I know it's her only solo album, though it
    appears she still plays quite a bit around
    SoCal.
     
  25. let him run...

    let him run... Senior Member

    Location:
    Colchester, VT USA
    I think there’s a thing about flag etiquette that the flag shouldn’t be used in a commercial type setting or in decorating.
    For those kind of applications red, white and blue bunting is used, but not an actual flag.
    There’s a long list of don’t do this. Few things are against the law type of things, mainly frowned upon things.
    You can wear red, white and blue stars and strips. But, you can’t take a flag and make a dress out of it. long list of no-no’s
     

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