Most Overdubbed Live Albums

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  1. murrow1971

    murrow1971 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I have often heard stories of Kiss heavily overdubbing on the Alive albums and that this was a fairly common practice (Running On Empty?) in the 70's . What are some albums that used this practice and which ones did it most benefit?
     
  2. Trainspotting

    Trainspotting Senior Member

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    Think Lizzy Live and Dangerous
     
  3. Al Kooper's Soul Of A Man comes to mind. All of Steve Katz' parts have been replaced by studio overdubs, Jim Fielder did his part as a studio overdub as well. I didn't do the album any good.

    The Band's The Last Waltz features quite some overdubs as well, most notably the sax solo to "It Makes No Difference" and the "Shape I'm In" horns.
     
  4. Toby Latimer

    Toby Latimer Forum Resident

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    +1 :thumbsup:
     
  5. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    Many Zappa albums of the 70's and 80's were overdubbed live albums.
     
  6. nolazep

    nolazep I drink and I know things

    Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
     
  7. semidetached

    semidetached Monkees Mixographist

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    They say Alive is but I doubt very much was done other than vocal correcting. Alive II however, is ridiculous in its absence of even trying to sound live at all. The audience loop never gets quiet, and Paul sings in killer harmonies all over the album.
     
  8. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die!

    Two come to mind here..."The Four Seasons Live On Stage",recorded to fulfill their contract to Vee-Jay,with the Audience "Dubbed In" and Hank Williams,Sr's "Live At the Grand Old Opry"..once again,with Dubbed Audience!
     
  9. jwoverho

    jwoverho Forum Resident

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    Eagles Live
     
  10. mark renard

    mark renard Forum Resident

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    Get Yer Yas Yas Out. The ones that have not been tinkered with are in the minority.
     
  11. lugnut2099

    lugnut2099 Forum Resident

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    Yeah, according to those who've heard the bootlegs from the tour, "Alive!" isn't nearly as doctored as has oft been stated.

    I think "Frampton Comes Alive" is one often cited as being mostly a studio creation. (Crowds erupting into wild frenzies over songs that hadn't been released yet at the time of the show's supposed recording being one giveaway.)
     
  12. monewe

    monewe Forum Resident

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    +2
     
  13. ralphb

    ralphb "First they came for..."

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    So overdubbed it should just be called And Dangerous.
     
  14. Toby Latimer

    Toby Latimer Forum Resident

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  15. peteham

    peteham Forum Resident

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    Exit Stage Left
     
  16. fabtrick

    fabtrick New Member

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    Cheap Trick At Budokan

    The vibe still kills, but when you compare the 2 shows in the box set, it's pretty obvious that many of the guitar solos and fills are overdubbed, and purportedly, Tom redid ALL his bass parts. "Ain't That A Shame" NEVER sounds like the live album if you go to an actual show. The closing bit - guitar, guitar, bass, drums is Rick, Rick, Tom, Bun E - and in an actual live setting, it's Rick, Robin, Tom, Bun E.
     
  17. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    I always thought that was a technique, though. Zappa's band did what were eventually live backing tracks and then "finished" them in the studio. They aren't really marketed as "live albums" as such. Is that not correct? I'm sure it's correct with at least a few tracks off of Sheik Yerbouti.
     
  18. Well, at least the drums were recorded live.
     
  19. saundr00

    saundr00 Bobby

    I've never seen the band discuss this. Where's this info from?
     
  20. Lots of edits as well, with songs sometimes coming from 3 different nights. Late 80s albums such as Make A Jazz Noise Here and The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life have a "no overdubs" claim in the liner notes, despite still being heavily edited.
     
  21. jabbo5150

    jabbo5150 Forum Resident

    Often with himself!

    I always though ALIVE! was was more live than ALIVE II. If you watch Detroit 76 on Kissology, it sounds like ALIVE and Detroit 76 wasn't doctored.
     
  22. jabbo5150

    jabbo5150 Forum Resident

    Going to see them tonight. I will have to pay attention f they play that one
     
  23. stereoguy

    stereoguy Its Gotta Be True Stereo!

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    Well, the first Beach Boys live LP from '64 required them to go back into the studio and re-record several songs, including "I Get Around". On the Lp its SO obvious that IGA is the 45!!

    "The Ventures On Stage" is a complete fake, Liberty had the guys come to the studio one day in '65 and set up and play live. They then overdubbed screaming crowds onto these recordings and walla! A live album.
     
  24. Emberglow

    Emberglow Forum Resident

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    Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble's Live Alive has about five additional recording studios listed in the credits.
     
  25. Marvin

    Marvin Forum Resident

    Europe '72 (Grateful Dead)

    Also Peter Gabriel's live album.

    The guitar solo for the live version of Conquistador (Procol Harum Live with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra) was supposedly added after the fact.
     
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